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The Beatles Bible 2015 Canon Poll
20 May 2015
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Hi Folks!

Well, here we are, my and Annadog40's 2015 Canon Poll.

It's not "Ultimate" or anything, and doesn't aim to be. This is just a snapshot of forum opinion on the EMI recordings The Beatles issued between their first single in 1962 and their break-up in 1970. Hopefully this will become a semi-regular event, annual or bi-annual, so that we are always updating the views of the forum membership.

This vote has much in common with IveJustSeenAFaceo's poll. You score each recording individually based on your opinion, however you come to that opinion — whether based on how much you like a recording, how important you think it is, or whatever else comes into play so far as you're concerned.

You are not ranking these songs against each other, but attaching a score of 1 to 10 (10 being highest, perfection) to them based on your opinion, and all we want is your opinion on each recording.

There are two ways to vote this time around. Created by our very own, and very wonderful, Annadog40, there is a Google doc. It scares me, as does all technology, but I am assured it works, and it's how I'm going to vote. If you'd prefer to do it differently however, PM me your vote, and I will ensure it's included.

This poll will not become the long, drawn-out affair that Faceo's became.

Voting is now open, and will be for eight weeks. Voting will close on Tuesday 14 July. The first results will be published on 22 July, with all results published within (approximately) 3 months of that date.

Neither Annadog40 or I consider this as belonging to us. We are merely facilitating something for the forum. This poll, and its results, belong to the forum.

The results, as soon as we have them, will be copied to a mod. They have our full permission in advance to publish results should we fail to keep up with our PROMISE to you about how we will conduct this poll on your behalf.

Here is the full voting list:

Across The Universe [Let It Be ]
Across The Universe ["World Wildlife Fund" version] [Past Masters ]
Act Naturally [Help !]
All I've Got To Do [With The Beatles ]
All My Loving [With The Beatles ]
All Together Now [Yellow Submarine ]
All You Need Is Love [Magical Mystery Tour / Yellow Submarine ]
And I Love Her [A Hard Day's Night ]
And Your Bird Can Sing [Revolver ]
Anna (Go to Him) [Please Please Me ]
Another Girl [Help !]
Any Time At All [A Hard Day's Night ]
Ask Me Why [Please Please Me ]

Baby It's You [Please Please Me ]
Baby You're A Rich Man [Magical Mystery Tour ]
Baby's In Black [Beatles For Sale ]
Back In The USSR [The Beatles (White Album )]
Bad Boy [Past Masters ]
The Ballad Of John And Yoko [Past Masters ]
Because [Abbey Road ]
Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite ! [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]
Birthday [The Beatles (White Album )]
Blackbird [The Beatles (White Album )]
Blue Jay Way [Magical Mystery Tour ]
Boys [Please Please Me ]

Can You Take Me Back? [The Beatles (White Album )]
Can't Buy Me Love [A Hard Day's Night ]
Carry That Weight [Abbey Road ]
Chains [Please Please Me ]
Come Together [Abbey Road ]
The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill [The Beatles (White Album )]
Cry Baby Cry [The Beatles (White Album )]

A Day In The Life [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]
Day Tripper [Past Masters ]
Dear Prudence [The Beatles (White Album )]
Devil In Her Heart [With The Beatles ]
Dig A Pony [Let It Be ]
Dig It [Let It Be ]
Dizzy Miss Lizzy [Help !]
Do You Want To Know A Secret [Please Please Me ]
Doctor Robert [Revolver ]
Don't Bother Me [With The Beatles ]
Don't Let Me Down [Past Masters ]
Don't Pass Me By [The Beatles (White Album )]
Drive My Car [Rubber Soul ]

Eight Days A Week [Beatles For Sale ]
Eleanor Rigby [Revolver ]
The End [Abbey Road ]
Every Little Thing [Beatles For Sale ]
Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey [The Beatles (White Album )]
Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby [Beatles For Sale ]

Fixing A Hole [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]
Flying [Magical Mystery Tour ]
The Fool On The Hill [Magical Mystery Tour ]
For No One [Revolver ]
For You Blue [Let It Be ]
From Me To You [Past Masters ]

Get Back [Let It Be ]
Get Back [single version] [Past Masters ]
Getting Better [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]
Girl [Rubber Soul ]
Glass Onion [The Beatles (White Album )]
Golden Slumbers [Abbey Road ]
Good Day Sunshine [Revolver ]
Good Morning Good Morning [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]
Good Night [The Beatles (White Album )]
Got To Get You Into My Life [Revolver ]

Happiness Is A Warm Gun [The Beatles (White Album )]
A Hard Day's Night [A Hard Day's Night ]
Hello, Goodbye [Magical Mystery Tour ]
Help ! [Help !]
Helter Skelter [The Beatles (White Album )]
Her Majesty [Abbey Road ]
Here Comes The Sun [Abbey Road ]
Here, There And Everywhere [Revolver ]
Hey Bulldog [Yellow Submarine ]
Hey Jude [Past Masters ]
Hold Me Tight [With The Beatles ]
Honey Don't [Beatles For Sale ]
Honey Pie [The Beatles (White Album )]

I Am The Walrus [Magical Mystery Tour ]
I Call Your Name [Past Masters ]
I Don't Want To Spoil The Party [Beatles For Sale ]
I Feel Fine [Past Masters ]
I Me Mine [Let It Be ]
I Need You [Help !]
I Saw Her Standing There [Please Please Me ]
I Should Have Known Better [A Hard Day's Night ]
I Wanna Be Your Man [With The Beatles ]
I Want To Hold Your Hand [Past Masters ]
I Want To Tell You [Revolver ]
I Want You (She's So Heavy) [Abbey Road ]
I Will [The Beatles (White Album )]
I'll Be Back [A Hard Day's Night ]
I'll Cry Instead [A Hard Day's Night ]
I'll Follow The Sun [Beatles For Sale ]
I'll Get You [Past Masters ]
I'm A Loser [Beatles For Sale ]
I'm Down [Past Masters ]
I'm Happy Just To Dance With You [A Hard Day's Night ]
I'm Looking Through You [Rubber Soul ]
I'm Only Sleeping [Revolver ]
I'm So Tired [The Beatles (White Album )]
I've Got A Feeling [Let It Be ]
I've Just Seen A Face [Help !]
If I Fell [A Hard Day's Night ]
If I Needed Someone [Rubber Soul ]
In My Life [Rubber Soul ]
The Inner Light [Past Masters ]
It Won't Be Long [With The Beatles ]
It's All Too Much [Yellow Submarine ]
It's Only Love [Help !]

Julia [The Beatles (White Album )]

Kansas City /Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey! [Beatles For Sale ]
Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand [Past Masters ]

Lady Madonna [Past Masters ]
Let It Be [Let It Be ]
Let It Be [single version] [Past Masters ]
Little Child [With The Beatles ]
The Long And Winding Road [Let It Be ]
Long, Long, Long [The Beatles (White Album )]
Long Tall Sally [Past Masters ]
Love Me Do [Please Please Me ]
Love Me Do [single version] [Past Masters ]
Love You To [Revolver ]
Lovely Rita [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]

Maggie Mae [Let It Be ]
Magical Mystery Tour [Magical Mystery Tour ]
Martha My Dear [The Beatles (White Album )]
Matchbox [Past Masters ]
Maxwell's Silver Hammer [Abbey Road ]
Mean Mr Mustard [Abbey Road ]
Michelle [Rubber Soul ]
Misery [Please Please Me ]
Money (That's What I Want) [With The Beatles ]
Mother Nature's Son [The Beatles (White Album )]
Mr Moonlight [Beatles For Sale ]

The Night Before [Help !]
No Reply [Beatles For Sale ]
Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) [Rubber Soul ]
Not A Second Time [With The Beatles ]
Nowhere Man [Rubber Soul ]

Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da [The Beatles (White Album )]
Octopus's Garden [Abbey Road ]
Oh! Darling [Abbey Road ]
Old Brown Shoe [Past Masters ]
One After 909 [Let It Be ]
Only A Northern Song [Yellow Submarine ]

Paperback Writer [Past Masters ]
Penny Lane [Magical Mystery Tour ]
Piggies [The Beatles (White Album )]
Please Mister Postman [With The Beatles ]
Please Please Me [Please Please Me ]
Polythene Pam [Abbey Road ]
PS I Love You [Please Please Me ]

Rain [Past Masters ]
Revolution [Past Masters ]
Revolution 1 [The Beatles (White Album )]
Revolution 9 [The Beatles (White Album )]
Rock And Roll Music [Beatles For Sale ]
Rocky Raccoon [The Beatles (White Album )]
Roll Over Beethoven [With The Beatles ]
Run For Your Life [Rubber Soul ]
The Run-Out Groove [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]

Savoy Truffle [The Beatles (White Album )]
Sexy Sadie [The Beatles (White Album )]
Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]
Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise) [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]
She Came In Through The Bathroom Window [Abbey Road ]
She Loves You [Past Masters ]
She Said She Said [Revolver ]
She's A Woman [Past Masters ]
She's Leaving Home [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]
Sie Liebt Dich [Past Masters ]
Slow Down [Past Masters ]
Something [Abbey Road ]
Strawberry Fields Forever [Magical Mystery Tour ]
Sun King [Abbey Road ]

A Taste Of Honey [Please Please Me ]
Taxman [Revolver ]
Tell Me What You See [Help !]
Tell Me Why [A Hard Day's Night ]
Thank You Girl [Past Masters ]
There's a Place [Please Please Me ]
Things We Said Today [A Hard Day's Night ]
Think For Yourself [Rubber Soul ]
This Boy [Past Masters ]
Ticket To Ride [Help !]
Till There Was You [With The Beatles ]
Tomorrow Never Knows [Revolver ]
Twist And Shout [Please Please Me ]
Two of Us [Let It Be ]

Wait [Rubber Soul ]
We Can Work It Out [Past Masters ]
What Goes On [Rubber Soul ]
What You're Doing [Beatles For Sale ]
When I Get Home [A Hard Day's Night ]
When I'm Sixty-Four [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]
While My Guitar Gently Weeps [The Beatles (White Album )]
Why Don't We Do It in the Road? [The Beatles (White Album )]
Wild Honey Pie [The Beatles (White Album )]
With A Little Help From My Friends [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]
Within You Without You [Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band]
The Word [Rubber Soul ]
Words Of Love [Beatles For Sale ]

Yellow Submarine [Revolver / Yellow Submarine ]
Yer Blues [The Beatles (White Album )]
Yes It Is [Past Masters ]
Yesterday [Help !]
You Can't Do That [A Hard Day's Night ]
You Know My Name (Look Up the Number) [Past Masters ]
You Like Me Too Much [Help !]
You Never Give Me Your Money [Abbey Road ]
You Really Got A Hold On Me [With The Beatles ]
You Won't See Me [Rubber Soul ]
You're Going To Lose That Girl [Help !]
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away [Help !]
Your Mother Should Know [Magical Mystery Tour ]

Abbey Road Medley [Abbey Road ]

 

Not identical to Faceo's list! We know, and we have discussed it. All 217 "song" recordings are included.. You don't think there's much difference between the Ringo and Andy White versions of Love Me Do , we'll know. You think the ? version of Get Back is better, album or single, we'll learn.

So, all 217 are here. But our list is 220! Three additional items that are on those albums, but aren't always recognised, or treated separately.

1) The Run-Out Groove: from Sgt. Pepper and you can include the dog whistle should you wish (I've never heard it myself!). Consider the looped versions for this, the way they expected it to be heard.

2) Can You Take Me Back? the link track between Cry, Baby, Cry and Revolution 9 on The Beatles (White Album ). Often treated differently but rarely included in things like this.

3) Abbey Road Medley. You'll find this right at the end of the list. Is the whole better than its parts?

I now hand you across to AD40, so that she can explain our Google doc, and how to link to it..., along with any comments she wants to make about what a barsteward I am!. "Do this! Do that!!" Sorry, AD40!

We will — or, at the least, I will — be back with a new poll at the beginning of next year. "The 2016 non-Canon Poll". So don't worry that anything's being missed. You'll get the chance to vote on everything...

Now, the poster you've known for all these years, may I introduce the one and only Annadog40...

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Here is a link to the Google voting forum

Votes are 1-10 with ten as highest the only thing that is required is your display name so if Silly Girl decided to vote, she would put down Silly Girl in the display name box. After the vote is cast, then You will recive a PM from me or Ron Nasty confirming that you vote. You must respond to that PM or your vote won't count. You do not need to put your email or any other information other than your Display name.

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I've pinned this thread so there is no chance it will get buried over the next 8 weeks whilst voting remains open.

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I'm actually gonna participate this time instead of just saying I will and then not, I swear!

I'm Necko.  I'm like Ringo except I wear necklaces.

I'm also ewe2 on weekends.

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Thanks very much to our pollsters. Great job @Starr Shine? / @Ron Nasty !!
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Thanks to all!

Can the voting be done in increments? In other words, can you peacefully vote for a group of songs and then come back another day to vote on another group - or do have to vote on all 217 at once?

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I will try to participate. I'm going to have to review a lot of songs if I want to make honest decisions.

"This Beatles talk bores me to death.” —John Lennon 

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@Into the Sky with Diamonds said
Can the voting be done in increments? In other words, can you peacefully vote for a group of songs and then come back another day to vote on another group - or do have to vote on all 217 at once?

There is no problem with your voting in several stages, or changing your votes should you want to.

You will receive a confirmation PM each time you enter a set of votes, or make changes to your votes, which must be replied to for those votes to count.

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What if I can't remember certain songs (most likely because they're bad and I don't listen to them)? Can I simply not give them any score?

Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit” (“Perhaps one day it will be a pleasure to look back on even this”; Virgil, The Aeneid, Book 1, line 203, where Aeneas says this to his men after the shipwreck that put them on the shores of Africa)

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@Oudis No problem with not voting on particular songs. The only required element is your username. Though, alternatively, you might choose to revisit songs (nearly everything can be found on YouTube if you don't have something), remind yourself how bad you think they are, and score them accordingly.

The more complete the sets of votes we receive, the more accurate the placings in the results list will be.

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Necko said
I'm actually gonna participate this time instead of just saying I will and then not, I swear!

What he said.

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Ron Nasty said

@Into the Sky with Diamonds said
Can the voting be done in increments? In other words, can you peacefully vote for a group of songs and then come back another day to vote on another group - or do have to vote on all 217 at once?

There is no problem with your voting in several stages, or changing your votes should you want to.

You will receive a confirmation PM each time you enter a set of votes, or make changes to your votes, which must be replied to for those votes to count.

@Ron Nasty 

So, we just click on the link, score thirty songs, close the document, open it again the next day and vote for another twenty, etc. etc.?

Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit” (“Perhaps one day it will be a pleasure to look back on even this”; Virgil, The Aeneid, Book 1, line 203, where Aeneas says this to his men after the shipwreck that put them on the shores of Africa)

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What an incredible undertaking by @Starr Shine? and @Ron Nasty!  Thanks you two!  It was so easy to do, and just running through the list makes each song resonate in your head--a real pleasure.  Also, it's not as hard as you think to honestly rank them; the process allows you to express your true feeling without concern about influence, repercussion or fear of reprisal. For instance, I discovered about myself that no matter how great an early cover was performed, I just don't feel the same way about them as I do an original composition. And, I overcame my Hey Jude  shame.  I'm just not that crazy about it, despite its general reputation as one of the greatest pop songs ever.

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@Oudis If voting in stages you will be opening a new voting form each time, so would need to keep track of what you have and haven't voted for (a full reference list is available under the spoiler in post #1). Unfortunately no voting method is perfect.

Should anyone want a copy of their scores, feel free to PM me. I'm making a copy of each person's scores as we go along, so it's no problem to PM your votes to you, should you want a record.

Thanks to all who have voted so far. I'm not going to say how many, but it works out at more than one a day. A very good start. Looking forward to more people joining in. The totals are looking most interesting at the moment.

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"And, I overcame my Hey Jude shame.  I'm just not that crazy about it, despite its general reputation as one of the greatest pop songs ever."

As noted in another thread; also not one of my favourites - love the first few minutes, dislike the  last few.

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OK. Sent my vote in. I'll respond to the PM when It arrives. Some of my scores changed from the last voting round. I Am The Walrus really took a jump up.

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@Ron Nasty 

Sorry if I'm being obtuse but how do we vote? Do we have to send a PM to @Starr Shine? with the full list? I thought I had seen a link but can't find it now. 

Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit” (“Perhaps one day it will be a pleasure to look back on even this”; Virgil, The Aeneid, Book 1, line 203, where Aeneas says this to his men after the shipwreck that put them on the shores of Africa)

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My first try at voting I thought I'd failed to send correctly……..So I did another one and sent that a day later. Nice Mr Nasty sent me a PM confirming both had arrived….Both were different and both had songs missing votes…..He gave me the examples and said he'd alter the scores in anyway I wanted.

I felt sorry for causing him this extra work and said let the first try count……He actually sent me both votes for me to compare.

 

This message is to thank him publicly for the work he's doing to collate all this and amend members cock-ups.

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Oudis said
Ron Nasty

Sorry if I'm being obtuse but how do we vote? Do we have to send a PM to Annadog40 with the full list? I thought I had seen a link but can't find it now. 

 The link is the second post in this thread. Just click the link and it should take you to the voting page.

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Thanks for voting, @Wigwam, and all those who have so far. I hope many more of you will vote.

I had some voting hiccups too. RN worked with me to get my votes registered correctly.

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