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The Beatles Bible 2015 Canon Poll - Results & Discussion
27 July 2015
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Now I'm looking for names, RN and AD40! I want a list of everyone who scored Every Little Thing lower than an 8.

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I love how Her Majesty scored better than Blue Jay Way - the cellos people! And that Flying beat Blue Jay Way

 

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Still waiting to get to the point of surprise as all of the songs here are to be expected in my opinion, even 'Every Little Thing '. Some are great songs like the utterly bizarre yet wonderful 'You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)' but that can be said for many of the tracks.

 

Can't remember what i scored 'ELT' @Ahhh Girl. What you need to do is have a year round 24/7 365 day policy for the track like i have going with 'Hold Me Tight '. Works a treat when it comes to polls, rankings, votes and placings.

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Ooo, somebody would be on @Ahhh Girl's list! And it isn't me, @meanmistermustard!

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I love how Her Majesty scored better than Blue Jay Way - the cellos people! And that Flying beat Blue Jay Way

I love Flying and recall rating it quite highly.

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These are my problems with this list:

Blue Jay Way , Flying and It's Only A Northern Song should not have scored lower than any song in this list other than possibly All Together Now , I Don't Want To Spoil The Party , Her Majesty or Doctor Robert . You Know My Name should have been waaaaay at the bottom of the rankings. It scored way too high. Also, I Wanna Be Your Man should be at least at the bottom of this list.

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Ooo, somebody would be on @Ahhh Girl's list! And it isn't me, @meanmistermustard!

I might be on her list. I don't remember.

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Ooo, somebody would be on @Ahhh Girl's list! And it isn't me, @meanmistermustard!

I might be on her list. I don't remember.

Very definitely!!!! So glad I scored it a 9. Not on her naughty step for once!!!!

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We've already reached the level of a pretty decent album by most people's standards.

 

By-the-way I like The Beatles doing a Bonzo Dog on, 'You know my name.....' I gave it an 8. It was the 'B' side to the Let it Be single which I didn't buy so I could only hear it at the pub at lunch.......(We were allowed in, even wearing our school uniforms...

I had money enough for a 'Light and Lime' a pie and one go on the juke box. 'You know my name' got my sixpence......My mates thought I was nuts.

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Wait ... so we've lost Doctor Robert , Every Little Thing , Not A Second Time and Don't Bother Me but we still have Rocky Raccoon , Till There Was You , Love Me Do and When I'm Sixty-Four !?!?!

I was hoping Every Little Thing might be in the top 100!!! 🙁

The chorus for "Thing" is nice but the rest is just okay to my ears.

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 Blue Jay Way and Only A Northern Song scored pretty low. HERESY!

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I'm also curious as to the sweep of the vote; how many people who took the poll handed out 1s or 2s.  Did anyone?

To the general audience: What was the lowest score you gave?  Don't have to know which song.  Curious.

How many '10s' were handed out?  I think I gave out 2.

Yes. I gave Revolution 9 a 1, and I think the Run-out Groove too. I wondered why that one was in the poll, since it's not a song at all. There were a few more very low grades on my end, but I don't remember the exact ratings. Dig It and Wild Honey Pie were scored low (2 or 3, I think), and there have been several 'failing grades', but not too many.

 

I didn't give out a lot of 10's either though. I think some of my 9's and 10's were Something , Boys , Twist And Shout , and I've Just Seen A Face . I don't remember them all, but I do know some of the songs that have already been revealed as less popular, were in the 8-10 category for me. 

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As I discussed somewhere far above, I took the opportunity to try something I've never done before:  I rated each song quickly and impulsively, going for the immediate gut feeling.

Secondly, I liked the 1 to 10 gradation, because it allowed me to accord plenty of props to great songs by giving them a 9 or an 8 -- thereby clearing the field for those unearthly gems that exclusively deserve a 10.  (I.e., not giving a 10 doesn't mean the song is not fabulous -- it just means it's not impossibly heavenly, as the special 10s are.)  The most fun I had was in discovering -- or rediscovering -- those special 10 songs, which don't require any more than a lightning-fast nanosecond to know:  like an epiphany.  Example, the second my eye read "Penny Lane " my brain (and heart) said.  "Of course!  10.  Absolutely no question!"

For me to know a 10, I simply experience the utter lack of any hesitation.  If I came across a song I love, and think is fabulous, but my fingers hesitated even a split-second above the keyboard, I just knew it couldn't be a 10.

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Georgous said
 Blue Jay Way and Only A Northern Song scored pretty low. HERESY!

Personally I feel the former lacks direction and meanders a little; I find the latter more interesting.

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I'm reading how members employed different methods to refine and calibrate their choices and how they held the awarding a 10 in reserve......for only a few blessed songs.......

My voting was the complete opposite.......

 

Votes from me:

1. 3

2. 8

3. 9

4. 11

5. 15

6. 32

7. 22

8. 24

9. 37

10. 58

 

For me there was nothing rarefied about giving a 10......What can I say? I'm a fan!!

119 songs were given an 8, 9 or a 10. It's not just about clever production 'Strawberry Fields'......it's about the warmth these lads put 'In My Life ' for 'This Boy ' anyway.....Oh 'Yes it bleeding is'

How can I separate songs as different but as wonderful as say 'If I Fell ', 'A Day In The Life ', 'Eleanor Rigby ' or Paperback Writer ??

I know what song I would choose if I could only choose 1.......Fortunately we didn't have to do that. 

Anyway....There you go...Should all average out.

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Now I'm looking for names, RN and AD40! I want a list of everyone who scored Every Little Thing lower than an 8.

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I wouldn't want to be anywhere around @Ahhh Girl if Girl doesn't come in #1.  Everyone who didn't rate it at least a 10 is going to be put on double secret probation.

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Ahhh Girl said
Now I'm looking for names, RN and AD40! I want a list of everyone who scored Every Little Thing lower than an 8.

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What happens when you are on that list?

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I'm not going to list each one because I think most of these deserve to be in the mass of mediocre early songs, except the later ones which unless I say otherwise I still agree (meaning they are at the low end of the later stuff). Speaking of which we are really getting into some later-half stuff (I place the halfway mark at the middle of Rubber Soul - the better songs off it count in the 2nd half of their career, the lesser songs in the first half).  For the first time, I ranked several of these lower than the gang (most of the ones I don't comment on specifically I ranked lower),

=187 (217)
Only A Northern Song - no way! this one should definitely be higher (see my recent post in this song's topic!) +50

=181 (223) All Together Now - this should be higher, it's a really fun, unique song with an awesome message for its time, at least in the states ("black, white, green, red, can I bring my friend to bed") - the first song I feel belongs in the top 100

=178 (224) I Wanna Be Your Man - ok, my arm feels twisted as I type "I'm ok with it here" - but there goes another Ringo song. Wonder which Ringo song will chart highest? My money's on Don't Pass Me By , but there are a couple other possibilities.

=175 (225) Her Majesty - I rated it quite low :p
You Know My Name (Look Up the Number) - As cool as this one is, I just couldn't justify giving it a higher rank and apparently neither could everyone else 😉

171 (229) Doctor Robert - I wonder how long before we see another Revolver song?

As far as Every Little Thing , let's just say if @Starr Shine? comes to Ohio, I'm not going to give her my address! But she might like the high rating I gave Piggies , thanks in part to her drawing my attention to the song during the heated White Album song ranking competition topic (I forget exactly what that game was called).

EDIT: I guess it's @Ahhh Girl who likes Every Little Thing . Even worse, as I know she's in my hemisphere at least!

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After all that's been said about covers, I went back and looked at my votes. Only 4 covers appeared in my approximately 75 7+ ranked songs, and only 5 covers appeared in the 80 1-4s. So my distribution was probably about the same, cover vs non-cover. A higher percentage of covers scored in the middle, I judged the bad originals more harshly than the worst covers, but the did pick really good songs to cover. I am familiar with all the original versions, if I wasn't before I heard the Beatles version I sought out the original. I enjoy studying modern music & the more I know the more I enjoy listening, as opposed to those who listen purely for pleasure (and I don't mean to say that either attitude is "better" or that my opinions are worth more than anyone else, just explaining why I took the time to find the original when I wasn't familiar with it already).

As I ranked them I was thinking that it's an extra hurdle to exceed the author's version, where the author performed it. I agree that some, like Twist And Shout , are special because of their place in Beatles history, and deserve a high rank. I gave it a very undeserving 3 for some reason - whatever it was, your statements made me recoil in horror when I reviewed and saw what I had done (I now feel it should have been a 6-7). You may have noticed I have a tendency to over-analyze things sometimes, especilly after the fact!

The Beatles themselves wrote so many really tremendous songs that it's difficult for even them to surpass their own stuff covering someone else. They picked really good songs to cover, and (again because of their sheer prolificity...prolificne-ne-ness...err, volume of work) they wrote a lot of mediocre songs. A mediocre Beatles song is as good as a good "anyone else" song 🙂 But we're not judging them against others (barring covers, but they are still Beatles performing them). I'll say that I required an extra-good interpretation of a cover to rate the same as an ordinary interpretation of their own song, and then shut up about it!

Unlike @Wigwam, I feel we're into a section where there won't be a lot of big surprises - expect the next 80 slots or so to be comprised of most of the rest of the early stuff and about a third of the later stuff.  So the top 100 will end up about 3/4 later stuff and 1/4 early stuff. I bet the discussion really heats up at about #100 🙂

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