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The Beatles Bible 2015 Canon Poll - Results & Discussion
30 August 2015
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I was actually surprised they dropped so few points. SFF is only 13 points short, and ADitL 14. SFF had a vote range of 8 to 10, while for a ADitL it was 7 to 10.

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Ron Nasty said 

I would like to thank @Starr Shine? for her huge contribution and help with this poll. If it is considered a success, much of that is down to her. Should she agree, I look forward to doing the non-Canon poll with her at the beginning of next year.

I do hope we have served the forum well with this poll, and have conducted it as we laid out in the first post over in the thread that set it up.

For myself, it has been a pleasure to do this for all my fellow beautiful Forumpudlians (and even the ugly ones among you a-hard-days-night-george-10).

I've enjoyed the ride, I hope you have too.

Huge thanks to all that took part, whether by voting or commenting along the way.

It's been fun!!!!

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On behalf of Dirk, Stig & myself I want to thank you and Anna for the polls great success. You both are truly Odobenus nosmarustrue! I am heading out to buy some new headphones and will shortly begin the process of preparing for the 2016 Fab Forum Non-Canon Poll!

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Ron Nasty said
I was actually surprised they dropped so few points. SFF is only 13 points short, and ADitL 14. SFF had a vote range of 8 to 10, while for a ADitL it was 7 to 10.

Alright, who's the Rolling Stones fan who gave ADITL a 7?  a-hard-days-night-john-3

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SFF is a wonderful, dreamy, introspective, psychedelic, ground-breaking piece. But to someone who doesn't know the Beatles, I don't think I'd say, "here, this is the prime example of what has made the Beatles the greatest band ever." ADITL comes much closer to that if for no other reason that it's even more of a Lennon-McCartney collaboration.

I'm actually even more surprised that Here Comes The Sun is considered the 3rd best song.

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John and George in the top 3, that's interesting...

"A Day In The Life " is my #1 among those 3, no doubts.

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Annadog40 said
Whoa. It's not the afternoon in America

Top three


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Here Comes The Sun
002 (376) A Day In The Life
001 (377) Strawberry Fields Forever

I guess that will be a surprise for many of us - but not for the significant number of folks who must have put it there.

Thanks again for the poll Ron and AD.

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I regard 'Here Comes The Sun ' as an uplifting and pleasant ditty no more to be valued than say Yellow Submarine ....(though both should be valued)..........It wasn't one of my whopping 58 10s.

How Paul didn't break the top ten with Eleanor Rigby I'll never understand...musically! But 'hey... hey ho'

Here's a very interesting take on that song.......I've got it to start where Eleanor is discussed. .......Opps I see that I haven't.....skip to the 29 minute mark.

Warning once you start watching you won't stop.......Something for Matt Busby too here....'Child Of Nature '

I suspect we will all be driven......if like me you haven't already.......to think about an order to our favourites. I didn't do that but I shall sit on the beach this afternoon.......Pick 10 favourites from my 58 tens..... musically and emotionally......Just so I know for myself.

Last thought on this.....Joe, (because the whole board is his creation).....Anna & Nasty have become with this poll, a small part themselves of the Beatles' story. Sometime in the future a researcher will dig out this poll and reference it...perhaps analyse  it to prove whatever point he or she wants to make.

So think on that.......Helps to make it worth the bother.

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@Ron Nasty, would you do the honors and add the top three songs to the list in post 1?

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Done. @Ahhh Girl.

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I think Here Comes The Sun deserves the honors. It's very simple, uplifting and hopeful. It has a timeless, universal quality.

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Annadog40 said

Top three


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Here Comes The Sun
002 (376) A Day In The Life
001 (377) Strawberry Fields Forever

Cool to see #'s 1 & 2 separated by only 1 point. Awesome that George made it to the Top 3.

Very well done @Ron Nasty and @Starr Shine? . Thanks very much for everything you did to make this exciting and keeping our interest.

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I'm glad George's up here too, Here Comes The Sun is a great optimistic song.

To sum it all up, we could revisit our personal top three and compare it to this, hmmmm?

Or just add up all the points and see who has the most.

People with low points would have, let's say, "unusual taste" or something 🙂

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I think Strawberry Fields Forever deserves it's #1 spot.  The lyrics of SFF simply speak to the listener on a deeply personal, as well as cosmic, level.  There's a book I enjoy highly: In Search of Schroedinger's Cat by physicist John Gribbin who writes about the quantum reality of our universe for us laypeople.  He quotes John Lennon at the beginning of his book: "Nothing is real."  I don't know John was thinking along those lines when he wrote the song, but it does seem that the scientific and mystic get hard to separate at the quantum level.  Truly mind-bending stuff, again showing that John was a brilliant thinker.

A few other lyrics stand out in my mind, the lines: "Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see" as well as "And nothing to get hung about."  I think the song encapsulates everything great about the Beatles.  Musicially incredible, lyrically thought-provoking - everything about the song is perfect to my mind.  It's a song I'll never tire of hearing, and often one that even my friends who don't like the Beatles enjoy.

ADITL is another breath-taking song and I too find it interesting that it missed the tie for first by 1 point.  I would have put In My Life in my top 3, but I'm very happy with Here Comes The Sun also.  I'm a sucker for those early Moog synthesizers and HCTS uses it to great effect.  Even without, it's just a beautiful and uplifting song.  Go George!

All in all, I couldn't be happier with the results!  Thanks again to RN and Annadog for doing all the hard work.  This was fun!

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I have been thinking of a future poll.

After deciding on which songs will be in the poll, each person would rank the songs. The person's favorite song would get the top number (for example, in this poll the top number would be 220 because we voted on 220 songs). Then I (or someone) could compile the numbers for each song. No one would be allowed to have multiple songs as their #1 song the way people gave lots of songs a full 10 in this poll. They would have to make the hard choices of really, really ranking each song.

Or, like @nzbeatlefan did, we could stop at our top 100.

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@Wigwam

That's a great video. Really points out the reasons why I Am The Walrus , Penny Lane , etc... are so great.

Though not the intent of the piece, it also highlights IMO why it's foolish to try to put either Lennon or McCartney above the other (and why the very best of McCartney belong with the very best of Lennon [and Harrison]).

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AAAARRRGGH! Will I ever learn? I just spent literally 3 hours composing a long, hopefully insightful post to summarize my feelings about the poll. Was previewing it, hit the wrong key, and poof. It's not in my cutbuffer, can't seem to get it back by going back through edits (ctrl-z)...Damn (I'm thinking something much worse!). Not that this is the right place to suggest it, but some sort of auto-backup feature would be a wonderful enhancement.

EDIT: I was upset when I posted this. It really wasn't that long, but I had revised and revised, cutnpasted, checked facts, referred back to previous posts, etc. And I hope my comment about the auto-backup didn't sound sarcastic - while it would be a nice feature, what happened was due to my own stupidity and no fault of the forum. With that in mind, and no longer shaking, I'm going to try again - composing in Word, and I'll cutnpaste it here when in its entirety when it's finished. You know how it is, I hadn't started out intending to put such effort into it...

Anyway apologies for the off topic angry-at-myself post, and hopefully here in a little while will appear a relevant, hopefully interesting replacement of the original 🙂

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Ahhh Girl said
I have been thinking of a future poll.

After deciding on which songs will be in the poll, each person would rank the songs. The person's favorite song would get the top number (for example, in this poll the top number would be 220 because we voted on 220 songs). Then I (or someone) could compile the numbers for each song. No one would be allowed to have multiple songs as their #1 song the way people gave lots of songs a full 10 in this poll. They would have to make the hard choices of really, really ranking each song.

Or, like @nzbeatlefan did, we could stop at our top 100.

I like this idea - for all sorts of reasons.

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@Ahhh Girl @trcanberra

It might be time consuming to juggle 220 songs, but I agree that 0-10 is limiting and voting multiple songs a '10' is (maybe) problematic.

Another option would be to open up the scoring to 0-100; people could be 'encouraged' not to vote ties.

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I think each person picking their top 50 and ranking them 1-50 would be interesting. It would certainly be interesting to compare the results of that list to the results of this poll.

EDIT: or would 30 be better - a double album.

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...or, if people can't stomach the thought of ranking the songs, we could each just pick our top 30, 50, or whatever number. We can see how many people choose each song to be in their top list.

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