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The Beatles Bible 2015 Canon Poll - Results & Discussion
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Thank you for that explanation. apple01 I hadn’t heard/read that part of the story.

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I agree George could be very witty.

There was an interview with the boys and a comedian ………..(I think Ken Dodd)….and he was asked would he join the group because he had the hair for it and Dodd says, “I would need a more pop name……something earthy”

 

Cue George……Flat dead-pan he says……..’Sod’

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@C.R.A. said

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I keep thinking of @C.R.A.’s signature.

“Send John out first; he’s the one they want.”
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I guess we could re-do it to

“Send John out first; he’s the one they want.”
~ Beatles Bible Canon Poll
2015

If I may, a little history behind choosing that sig… I’m reading Tune In and I’m at the part of the story where “we’re more popular than Jesus” has been in the wind for awhile, along with all the record burnings and all the threats… As they’re landing in Memphis, Lewisohn aptly describes the palpable tension aboard the plane (after a terrible flight) amid the dark concerns for their safety in the Heart of Dixie.  The door opens and there’s this pregnant hesitation to deplane.

Cue Mr. Harrison.

In spite of all the praise heaped on Lennon for his rapier wit, I’ve always found George to be the sharpest knife in the drawer.  

Excuse me, but do you have some weird misprint of Tune In? My copy ends on 31 December 1962, years off reaching the “we’re more popular than Jesus” debacle. I’m expecting to find Lewisohn tackle it in the second volume, Turn On, not published until around 2020. If you’ve got a misprint of Tune In that includes the “Jesus” incident, please let us all in on what Lewisohn has to say.

Whatever you were reading, it definitely wasn’t/ain’t Tune In.

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Okay, I goofed.  Ever make a mistake?  You’re correct that Tune In doesn’t go that far.  I’ll have to figure out where I read it, but I’m sure it’s a credible quote.

Wow.

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C.R.A. said

Okay, I goofed.  Ever make a mistake?  You’re correct that Tune In doesn’t go that far.  I’ll have to figure out where I read it, but I’m sure it’s a credible quote.

Wow.

It’s a damn good story from wherever you got it from. If it’s untrue, it’s certainly in character.

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Article from the LA Times about the incident.  It may be merely passing along urban legend created by others; who knows?  I have seen the same reference more than once, however.

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C.R.A. said
Okay, I goofed.  Ever make a mistake?  You’re correct that Tune In doesn’t go that far.  I’ll have to figure out where I read it, but I’m sure it’s a credible quote.

Wow.

There was a wink. I took the comments in good humour.

Great info as well by the way.

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C.R.A. said

In spite of all the praise heaped on Lennon for his rapier wit, I’ve always found George to be the sharpest knife in the drawer.  

Same here. That’s one of the reasons why he is my favorite.

By the way, aren’t we due for the next set of songs today? Is there supposed to be more than three days passed before we get to the Top 25?

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Oops! Lost track of the date. Thought today was the 20th for some reason!

025 (320) Twist And Shout
=023 (322) Rain
Revolution
=021 (323) Nowhere Man
Tomorrow Never Knows
020 (326) Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
019 (328) Dear Prudence
=017 (329) Happiness Is A Warm Gun
A Hard Day’s Night
016 (330) Penny Lane
015 (331) Day Tripper
=012 (333) Help !
I Saw Her Standing There
Ticket To Ride
011 (334) Eleanor Rigby

So, Twist And Shout  reigns supreme so far as cover versions go, and by a very long way. Part of that is surely the mythology around its recording, but it’s also one helluva performance. 15 songs make up these ten positions, which leaves ten songs and ten positions – therefore, despite all the speculation, there are no ties in the top 10.

The next results (positions 10-7) will be posted on the 24th.

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=023 (322) Rain
=021 (323) Tomorrow Never Knows
=012 (333) I Saw Her Standing There
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My Top 10 are officially toast.

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It’s funny Rain is lauded here but didn’t make it to the Top 20!

The rest are all fair places and good to see While My Guitar… still in there a-hard-days-night-george-9

 

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George has three tracks in the top 10, John has 5, Paul 1 and then there is the Abbey Road medley. I think thats right. 

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Edit: It’s not, George has two.

Edit #2: I was wrong, George has three, four John tracks, one Paul, one John and Paul together and one which is both John and Paul but separate (if that makes sense).

The ten remaining tracks are in the spoiler for those who want to know. If you dont want to know then don’t look.

Abbey Road  Medley – Paul & John (+ George)
A Day In The Life  – John & Paul
The End  – Paul
Here Comes The Sun  – George
I Am The Walrus  – John
In My Life  – John
Norwegian Wood  – John
Something  – George
Strawberry Fields Forever  – John
While My Guitar Gently Weeps  – George

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A few folk might be interested in the ranking of the albums by track and as some complete albums (in this case those considered core and included, and released, in the 2009 stereo box) have fallen, here are their songs by ranking (hopefully everything is correct but i always make a mistake somewhere).

Organised order: song title (position #, total points score)

Please Please Me

A Taste Of Honey (215, 180)
Chains (208, 188)
Boys (206, 198)
Ask Me Why (200, 202)
Anna (Go To Him) (195, 210)
P.S. I Love You (193, 213)
Baby It’s You (190, 215)
Misery (178, 224)
Do You Want To Know A Secret (164, 234)
There’s A Place (151 242)
Love Me Do (Album Version) (149, 243)
Please Please Me (45, 308)
Twist And Shout (25, 320)
I Saw Her Standing There (12, 333)

With The Beatles

Little Child (213, 184)
Devil In Her Heart (212, 186)
Hold Me Tight (190, 215)
Don’t Bother Me (181, 223)
I Wanna Be Your Man (178, 224)
Not A Second Time (173, 226)
Till There Was You (170, 231)
All I’ve Got To Do (164, 234)
Money (That’s What I Want) (146, 244)
Roll Over Beethoven (146, 244)
You Really Got A Hold On Me (140, 247)
Please Mister Postman (124, 260)
It Won’t Be Long (91, 280)
All My Loving (65, 295)

A Hard Day’s Night

When I Get Home (197, 206)
I’ll Cry Instead (185, 220) 
Any Time At All (140, 247)
Tell Me Why (139, 248)
I’ll Be Back (135, 253)
You Can’t Do That (110, 267)
I’m Happy Just To Dance With You (108, 268)
And I Love Her (74, 288)
Things We Said Today (74, 288)
If I Fell (299, 58)
Can’t Buy Me Love (52, 302)
I Should Have Known Better (50, 303)
A Hard Day’s Night (17, 329)

Beatles For Sale

Mr. Moonlight (217, 167)
Honey Don’t (210, 187)
Everybody’s Trying To Be My Baby (203, 201)
Medley: Kansas City /Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! (197, 206)
I Don’t Want To Spoil The Party (181, 223)
Every Little Thing (172, 228)
What You’re Doing (167, 233)
Words Of Love (167, 233)
Rock And Roll Music (153, 241)
Baby’s In Black (137, 250)
I’ll Follow The Sun (133, 254)
I’m A Loser (94, 277)
Eight Days A Week (82, 285)
No Reply (69, 291)

Help !

Act Naturally (210, 187)
Dizzy Miss Lizzy (203, 201)
Tell Me What You See (178, 224)
You Like Me Too Much (175, 225)
Another Girl (146, 244)
It’s Only Love (131, 257)
I Need You (122, 261)
The Night Before (119, 262)
You’re Going To Lose That Girl (78, 286)
I’ve Just Seen A Face (52, 302)
Yesterday (44, 310)
You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away (28, 318)
Help ! (12, 333)
Ticket To Ride (12, 333)

Revolver

Doctor Robert (171, 229)
Love You To (151, 242)
I Want To Tell You (124, 260)
Yellow Submarine (100, 272)
Good Day Sunshine (92, 278)
Got To Get You Into My Life (74, 288)
And Your Bird Can Sing (55, 301)
I’m Only Sleeping (48, 306)
She Said She Said (37, 311)
Taxman (37, 311)
For No One (31, 317)
Here, There And Everywhere (28, 318)
Tomorrow Never Knows (21, 323)
Eleanor Rigby (11, 334)

Yellow Submarine

Only A Northern Song (187, 217)
All Together Now (181, 223)
It’s All Too Much (155, 240)
Yellow Submarine (100, 272)
All You Need Is Love (65, 295)
Hey Bulldog (26, 319)

Let It Be

Dig It (218, 163)
Maggie Mae (214, 182)
Dig A Pony (155, 240)
The Long And Winding Road (143, 245)
For You Blue (119, 262)
One After 909 (117, 263)
I Me Mine (85, 283)
I’ve Got A Feeling (84, 284)
Let It Be (Album Version) (78, 286)
Get Back (Album Version) (62, 297)
Across The Universe (Album Version) (58, 299)
Two of Us (45, 308)

Past Masters

Matchbox (208, 188)
Bad Boy (207, 190)
Thank You Girl (205, 199)
Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand (200, 202)
Slow Down (200, 202)
Sie Liebt Dich (196, 207)
I’ll Get You (186, 219)
You Know My Name (Look Up The Number) (175, 225)
The Inner Light (161, 238)
Yes It Is (159, 239)
I Call Your Name (143, 245)
Love Me Do (Single Version) (143, 245)
She’s A Woman (138, 249)
Long Tall Sally 136 252)
I’m Down (124, 260)
Old Brown Shoe (122, 261)
The Ballad Of John And Yoko (117, 263)
From Me To You (115, 264)
Across The Universe (‘World Wildlife Fund’ Version) 98 274
This Boy (90, 281)
Lady Madonna (88, 282)
Don’t Let Me Down (85, 283)
Get Back (Single Version) (66, 294)
Let It Be (Single Version) (66, 294)
We Can Work It Out (50, 303)
I Want To Hold Your Hand (37, 311)
Paperback Writer (37, 311)
I Feel Fine (36, 313)
Hey Jude (33, 315)
She Loves You (28, 318)
Rain (23, 322)
Revolution (23, 322)
Day Tripper (15, 331)

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@meanmistermustard said
George has three tracks in the top 10, John has 5, Paul 1 and then there is the Abbey Road medley. I think thats right. 

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Edit: It’s not, George has two.

You were right to begin with, George has three: Here Comes The Sun Something  and While My Guitar Gently Weeps .

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Yeah. I figured that out when looking at the tracks. I thought ‘While My Guitar Gently Weeps ‘ had been. ahdn_paul_01

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meanmistermustard said
George has three tracks in the top 10, John has 5, Paul 1 and then there is the Abbey Road medley. I think thats right. 

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Edit: It’s not, George has two.

Edit #2: I was wrong, George has three, four John tracks, one Paul, one John and Paul together and one which is both John and Paul but separate (if that makes sense).

The ten remaining tracks are in the spoiler for those who want to know. If you dont want to know then don’t look.

Abbey Road  Medley – Paul & John (+ George)
A Day In The Life  – John & Paul
The End  – Paul
Here Comes The Sun  – George
I Am The Walrus  – John
In My Life  – John
Norwegian Wood  – John
Something  – George
Strawberry Fields Forever  – John
While My Guitar Gently Weeps  – George

It’s funny because the songs, that I can remember giving 10’s to, are all in the Top 10- 

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Looking at the rankings there are some what i would consider bizarre and unexpected outcomes. 

  • The two German tracks place higher than three English language tracks; Bad Boy , Matchbox and, most surprisingly, ‘Thank You Girl ‘, which is a Lennon/McCartney original. 
  • Day Tripper ‘ comes out top of the ‘Past Masters ‘ tracks.
  • No ‘Revolver ‘ songs are in the top 10, i’d have argued strongly before the results were announced that this would not be the case.
  • Mentioned and discussed before but a lot of what are generally considered to be Paul’s most popular Beatles tracks have gone. And i would never have thought his highest placing track (where he is viewed as the sole lead vocalist) is what it has turned out to be.

Folk looking in might think we are a weird bunch. If i didnt know the folk behind the results i’d be asking for a recount.

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I notice a slight George bias on the board generally and thought his big three would do well. Loyalty and dues to the underdog too maybe played a part…..But they’re great songs……..Better than Eleanor Rigby it seems.

Never considered I Saw Her Standing There would be so popular…….But my biggest surprise is Revolution .

As for the top 10, I’m flattering us all but perhaps with The End , (and many others) we’re showing our deep knowledge of the Beatles’ canon. The fab four’s swan song…… all of them giving it large……..and John summoning the courage to ask Yoko to keep her nose out of it, just for this one ensuring the boys could relax….And the canon crowning Shakespearian couplet……Conjuring up everything they meant….. and still mean to us.

But overall there can be no arguing with the results.

Another group of voters would give very different scores…….and I suspect so would we on a different day………I know I would reconsider a number of my votes.

A couple of last points.

1. That we all take it so personal when a song falters shows our love for their music…….Every song, (even Act Naturally ) has a fan.

2………………Er I’ll save my last point for the final results.

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=023 (322) Rain
=021 (323) Tomorrow Never Knows
=012 (333) I Saw Her Standing There
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My Top 10 are officially toast

But a worthy and interesting top 10 they were 🙂 I disagree with over half of them but my reasons are purely subjective.

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Wigwam said

1. That we all take it so personal when a song falters shows our love for their music…….Every song, (even Act Naturally ) has a fan.

I like Act Naturally !blue-meanie

Edit: But I think #210 is about right.

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