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The Beatles Bible 2015 Canon Poll - Results & Discussion
22 July 2015
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Well, strap in, Forumpudlians, we're off!

This thread is for both results and the discussion thereof. To ensure that the results can always be easily found among the discussion, after the second set of results have been posted on the 25th, I will include a copy of the results as they stand in this first post.

I still recommend you read the actual results posts as @Starr Shine? and I are unlikely to resist commenting on the results in those posts. This post will just contain an easy reference list of the results so that people don't have to search through posts to find a particular result.

So, a total of 39 people took part (we thank you all), giving a total possible score of 390. The number that appears in brackets is the score the title(s) in that position got.

220 (136) Wild Honey Pie
219 (146) The Run-Out Groove
218 (163) Dig It
217 (167) Mr Moonlight
216 (168) Revolution 9
215 (180) A Taste Of Honey
214 (182) Maggie Mae
213 (184) Little Child
212 (186) Devil In Her Heart
=210 (187) Act Naturally
Honey Don't
=208 (188) Chains
Matchbox
207 (190) Bad Boy
206 (198) Boys
205 (199) Thank You Girl
=203 (201) Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby
Dizzy Miss Lizzy
=200 (202) Ask Me Why
Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand
Slow Down
=197 (206) Can You Take Me Back?
Kansas City /Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey!
When I Get Home
196 (207) Sie Liebt Dich
195 (210) Anna (Go to Him)
194 (211) Why Don't We Do It in the Road?
193 (213) PS I Love You
=190 (215) Baby It's You
Good Night
Hold Me Tight
189 (216) Blue Jay Way
=187 (217) Flying
Only A Northern Song
186 (219) I'll Get You
185 (220) I'll Cry Instead
184 (222) What Goes On
=181 (223) All Together Now
Don't Bother Me
I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
=178 (224) I Wanna Be Your Man
Misery
Tell Me What You See
=175 (225) Her Majesty
You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)
You Like Me Too Much
=173 (226) Honey Pie
Not A Second Time
172 (228) Every Little Thing
171 (229) Doctor Robert
170 (231) Till There Was You
169 (232) Maxwell's Silver Hammer
=167 (233) What You're Doing
Words Of Love
=164 (234) All I've Got To Do
Do You Want To Know A Secret
Rocky Raccoon
163 (237) Wait
=161 (238) The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill
The Inner Light
=159 (239) Savoy Truffle
Yes It Is
=155 (240) Dig A Pony
Don't Pass Me By
It's All Too Much
Run For Your Life
=153 (241) Long, Long, Long
Rock And Roll Music
=151 (242) Love You To
There's a Place
=149 (243) Love Me Do [album version]
Piggies
=146 (244) Another Girl
Money (That's What I Want)
Roll Over Beethoven
=143 (245) I Call Your Name
The Long And Winding Road
Love Me Do [single version]
142 (246) When I'm Sixty-Four
=140 (247) Any Time At All
You Really Got A Hold On Me
139 (248) Tell Me Why
138 (249) She's A Woman
137 (250) Baby's In Black
136 (252) Long Tall Sally
135 (253) I'll Be Back
=133 (254) I'll Follow The Sun
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
=131 (257) Baby, You're a Rich Man
It's Only Love
=129 (259) Think For Yourself
Your Mother Should Know
=124 (260) I Want To Tell You
I'm Down
Mean Mr Mustard
Please Mister Postman
Polythene Pam
=122 (261) I Need You
Old Brown Shoe
=119 (262) For You Blue
The Night Before
Octopus's Garden
=117 (263) The Ballad Of John And Yoko
One After 909
=115 (264) From Me To You
Magical Mystery Tour
=113 (265) Birthday
Mother Nature's Son
112 (266) Sexy Sadie
=109 (267) Cry Baby Cry
You Can't Do That
You Won't See Me
108 (268) I'm Happy Just To Dance With You
=106 (269) Good Morning Good Morning
Martha My Dear
105 (270) The Word
=103 (271) Glass Onion
Sun King
=100 (272) Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
Lovely Rita
Yellow Submarine
099 (273) If I Needed Someone
098 (274) Across The Universe ["World Wildlife Fund" version]
=096 (275) Fixing A Hole
Within You Without You
095 (276) Michelle
094 (277) I'm A Loser
=092 (278) Getting Better
Good Day Sunshine
091 (280) It Won't Be Long
090 (281) This Boy
=088 (282) The Fool On The Hill
Lady Madonna
=085 (283) Don't Let Me Down
I Me Mine
Julia
084 (284) I've Got A Feeling
=082 (285) Eight Days A Week
Hello, Goodbye
=078 (286) I'm Looking Through You
Let It Be [album version]
She's Leaving Home
You're Going To Lose That Girl
=074 (288) And I Love Her
Got To Get You Into My Life
Things We Said Today
Yer Blues
073 (289) I Will
072 (290) I Want You (She's So Heavy)
069 (291) Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite !
No Reply
Oh! Darling
068 (293) Revolution 1
=066 (294) Get Back [single version]
Let It Be [single version]
=063 (295) All My Loving
All You Need Is Love
Back In The USSR
062 (297) Get Back [album version]
=060 (298) Carry That Weight
Golden Slumbers
=058 (299) Across The Universe [album version]
If I Fell
057 (300) Drive My Car
=055 (301) And Your Bird Can Sing
Blackbird
=052 (302) Can't Buy Me Love
I'm So Tired
I've Just Seen A Face
=050 (303) I Should Have Known Better
We Can Work It Out
049 (304) With A Little Help From My Friends
048 (306) I'm Only Sleeping
=045 (308) Please Please Me
She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
Two of Us
044 (310) Yesterday
=037 (311) Come Together
Helter Skelter
I Want To Hold Your Hand
Paperback Writer
Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band
She Said She Said
Taxman
036 (313) I Feel Fine
035 (314) Girl
=033 (315) Hey Jude
Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)
032 (316) Because
031 (317) For No One
=028 (318) Here, There And Everywhere
She Loves You
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
=026 (319) Hey Bulldog
You Never Give Me Your Money
025 (320) Twist And Shout
=023 (322) Rain
Revolution
=021 (323) Nowhere Man
Tomorrow Never Knows
020 (326) Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
019 (328) Dear Prudence
=017 (329) Happiness Is A Warm Gun
A Hard Day's Night
016 (330) Penny Lane
015 (331) Day Tripper
=012 (333) Help !
I Saw Her Standing There
Ticket To Ride
011 (334) Eleanor Rigby
010 (337) The End
009 (338) Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
008 (341) I Am The Walrus
007 (347) Something
006 (348) Abbey Road Medley
005 (349) While My Guitar Gently Weeps
004 (353) In My Life
003 (356) Here Comes The Sun
002 (376) A Day In The Life
001 (377) Strawberry Fields Forever

Anyway, enough preamble I think. The next post will be the results from 220 to 208.

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220 (136) Wild Honey Pie
219 (146) The Run-Out Groove
218 (163) Dig It
217 (167) Mr Moonlight
216 (168) Revolution 9
215 (180) A Taste Of Honey
214 (182) Maggie Mae
213 (184) Little Child
212 (186) Devil In Her Heart
=210 (187) Act Naturally
Honey Don't
=208 (188) Chains
Matchbox

For me, the most interesting result is poor old Wild Honey Pie ! Last in Faceo's poll, and last in this one. It really isn't liked much by people on this forum. The Run-Out Groove, a couple of seconds of gibberish, beat it by ten points, and not everybody scored that! Also interesting to see three Ringo covers down at the bottom, with just a single point separating them (and two of those I love).

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22 July 2015
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I rated Revolution 9 and Dig It favorably, as I recall.

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Poor Mr. Moonlight

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Poor Ringo

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Very interesting indeed. I recall rating at least one of these quite high. 

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I don't remember my ratings at all, except for one or two songs... Could it be possible to get them via PM or email or whatever?... 

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@Shamrock Womlbs I've just sent you a PM about that.

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I would say the first 8 tracks are not a surprise in how low they appear (only the actual placements being debatable). All of them (bar the run out groove as to many its barely worth mentioning) are frequently listed as examples of the poorer Beatles tracks with 'Little Child ''s lyrics being often thought of as creepy. The others are covers and to many little more than meh (Ringo's vocal being an (unfair) automatic points deduction).

Shame about 'Wild Honey Pie ', members of the fan club will be disappointed.

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The only one I passionately, wildly disagree with for such a low rating is "Wild Honey Pie " -- I love that song.

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Ron Nasty said

For me, the most interesting result is poor old Wild Honey Pie ! Last in Faceo's poll, and last in this one. It really isn't liked much by people on this forum. The Run-Out Groove, a couple of seconds of gibberish, beat it by ten points, and not everybody scored that! Also interesting to see three Ringo covers down at the bottom, with just a single point separating them (and two of those I love).

It is interesting that Wild Honey Pie scored dead last on both polls. I'm not sure what I gave it but it wasn't in the cellar - a 3 I think. Hard to believe The Run Out Groove scored higher. I also ranked Dig It much higher than the average forumpudlian, after all I got my sn from it 🙂 Well actually I guess I didn't score it higher than the average voter, but it ranked well above 208th in my rankings - probably around 150th. I think maybe people didn't use the lower rankings as much, as even the lowest song had almost a 3.5 average rank, and I ranked a lot (about 30 I think) of songs 3 and under. Not because I think they're bad, I was just trying to use the entire 10 points of the scale.

And I totally agree about the Ringo songs. Of course most Ringo songs are going to be in the bottom 100, but 3 in the bottom 12? I like Honey Don't and Act Naturally a lot, and I have sentimental reasons for liking Chains . Matchbox is such a great song I ranked it higher, even if the performance (at least Ringo's vocals) are lacking - I think there are some songs by all 3 that are less And Boys , one of my least favorite Ringo songs, is still unrevealed!

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WHP will suffer from the majority giving it a very low mark whereas only a few will likely rate it anywhere close to than a 5 or 6. If all 39 rated it then its average is a shade less than 3.5, the often derided 'Revolution 9 ' is at 4.3.

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Expert Textpert said
I rated Revolution 9 and Dig It favorably, as I recall.

I voted Little Child favorably, as I recall.

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meanmistermustard said
WHP will suffer from the majority giving it a very low mark whereas only a few will likely rate it anywhere close to than a 5 or 6. If all 39 rated it then its average is a shade less than 3.5, the often derided 'Revolution 9 ' is at 4.3.

WHP only got 38 votes so it's a little less than 3.6

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I'm glad my score of 9 for Honey Don't kept it from being in the worst 5.

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I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Revolution 9 scored so high! two-virgins

The Run-Out Groove, now that's a funny one....blue-meanie

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A Taste Of Honey .

Deserved ranking.

I recall commenting on the numerous versions on the BBC iTunes release as Paul tried to whip his less-than-enthusiastic backing band into a fervour over this very ordinary song 🙂

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trcanberra said
A Taste Of Honey .

Deserved ranking.

I recall commenting on the numerous versions on the BBC iTunes release as Paul tried to whip his less-than-enthusiastic backing band into a fervour over this very ordinary song 🙂

I couldn't agree more here. This song actually irritates me a little bit, the chorus "A Taste Of Honey (A Taste Of Honey )" - that echo just sounds too contrived. I know it was kind of "in fashion" back then, but that was back then 😉

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Matt Busby said

It is interesting that Wild Honey Pie scored dead last on both polls. I'm not sure what I gave it but it wasn't in the cellar - a 3 I think. Hard to believe The Run Out Groove scored higher. I also ranked Dig It much higher than the average forumpudlian, after all I got my sn from it 🙂 Well actually I guess I didn't score it higher than the average voter, but it ranked well above 208th in my rankings - probably around 150th. I think maybe people didn't use the lower rankings as much, as even the lowest song had almost a 3.5 average rank, and I ranked a lot (about 30 I think) of songs 3 and under. Not because I think they're bad, I was just trying to use the entire 10 points of the scale.

As Matt knows, I am a Dig It  brother, having also taken my SN from its deathless lyrics.  I didn't let weepy sentimentality keep me from rating it a "1", though. It is a throwaway POS, without a doubt.  On the day he wrote Dig It , I'll bet John put more care and thought into brushing his teeth than he did "writing" that song.

The interesting thing about Matt's description is that he said he "was just trying to use the entire 10 points of the scale."  I didn't do that, I just called them as I saw them, without any regard to relativity.  (Sorry, Einstein). 

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Agree with 'ATOH'; on a number of the BBC recordings John sounded so bored doing the backing vocals and he was right. Its such a dreary track and the studio version is no better.

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