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11 May 2012
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meanmistermustard
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Does anyone know which book is most accurate for what instruments are played on each beatles song and session details (more than just George Martin was the producer)?
At times Revolution in the Head is different to Lewisohn which is different to John C Winn (The Beatles Recorded Legacy volumes 1 + 2).

Thanks in advance for any help, even if the answer is there isnt one.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

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15 May 2012
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"Recording the Beatles" by Kehew and Ryan is amazing. It's so accurate. It's a big book, comes with some stuff, but it's rather expensive. But it's really wonderful. It says so much.

I am very happy, and one reason is because I have The Beatles. Thank you!!!! <3 <3 <3 <3

15 May 2012
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Its something i have been looking at but the price is top wack so i'd have to be 100% convinced before going for it. I think its $100 + p&p which will be around £65. What kind of things does it cover RP, i cant gather much from the samples apart from it looks very indepth - which is good.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of "self" to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

15 May 2012
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You've seemed very keen on obtaining definitive answers about who played what at which sessions recently, meanmistermustard- can I ask what's triggered this? It is a shame that there is no totally reliable guide.

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15 May 2012
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My brother wants to know who played what on what and when i took a closer look than simply reading Revolution In The Head it became apparhent that there have been small indiscrepancies between sources over the years. Also got the John C Winn books at Christmas which sparked an larger interest plus with Rock Band coming out more people are looking deeper into the recordings. Its fascinating to see how the songs developed and how much work went into a 2 1/2 minute song.

Most bands nowadays spend around the same amount of time as the beatles on tracks but there is a depth that they havent managed to achieve.

Its one of the factors that keeps the music so fresh. You can listen to a beatles song for the 5,000 time and hear something new. For instance on Ive Just Seen A Face Paul sang a double vocal on the chorus's however there is also faint doubling on some of the other words like the last 'met' of the song. If you listen closely you can hear it. I find it delightful finding these little things.

They included weird instruments and noises in the song that are only noticable when stripping the song back, and now due to Rock Band you can hear original guide vocals, chatter, unused guitars etc in there. It just gets silly at times that there are these songs that are held up as being some of the greatest music ever recorded and yet they were having a laugh recording it.

For many recording artists music has become so serious, so straight faced and humourless that the end product is either forced or lifeless.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of "self" to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

16 May 2012
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http://wgo.signal11.org.uk/wgo.htm

I'm assuming you've already perused this (incredible) site? If not, then you'll be delighted to read through the list of all those little bits and bobs. I agree, it does add so much personality to the music when you find little mistakes or hear studio chatter and know they were just having fun and just people, yet making such awe-inspiring and influential songs.

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16 May 2012
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I'd forgot all about that place. Its great to sit down and read, tho you end up having to play the songs alongside and going mad. Thanks for the reminder, will bookmark the site for later.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of "self" to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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I was trying to find a suitable home for my comment, which I didn't want to make a whole new topic for:

Here's my claim:  Not once in any song did the Beatles, or any one of them in their solo careers, use a guiro.

(I think it would have sounded good in Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da).

The guiro:  Latin percussion instrument with ridges on it which you scrape with a little wooden stick.

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Listen to the first few seconds of Fried Bananas, by Cal Tjader (the guiro is played throughout the entire song, but it's most prominent at the start).

BBers:  prove me wrong!

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18 September 2015
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guiro-1.JPGImage Enlarger

Joe's entry for 'Tell Me What You See'.

The use of the guiro is one of the reasons why I have a huge affection for this track.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of "self" to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

18 September 2015
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18 September 2015
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Thanks Wigwam -- how could I have missed that!!!??? I've listened to "Bluebird" probably 100 times; although 98% of the time I'm playing along on my acoustic guitar and not listening closely.  Plus, the guiro is rather muted in that song.

Thanks meanmistermustard -- that's a song I've not really listened to before (once again, shows my relatively low degree of fandomhood...). 

Ahhh Girl, you weren't saying that "All Things Must Pass" has guiro, right...?  I couldn't hear one on relistening to it.

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18 September 2015
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I wasnt., PR. Just an offhand observation.

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