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So-so songs with great production
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Some songs are flat-out great, and would be great regardless of who performed them (While My Guitar ..., Let It Be , ...). There's a reason why "Yesterday " has been covered by 2200 performers.

Other songs in and of themselves, are OK - but made great through production (vocals, instrumentation, into/outro,...)

I think "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" would be a good example.

Even some classics like "I Want To Hold Your Hand ."  "Wait " is not a great song - but I really enjoy it thanks to the little harmonium (?) that pops up here in there ("wait ... zwing ... 'till I come back to your door...")

Any others?

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Some songs are flat-out great, and would be great regardless of who performed them (While My Guitar ..., Let It Be , ...). There's a reason why "Yesterday " has been covered by 2200 performers.

Other songs in and of themselves, are OK - but made great through production (vocals, instrumentation, into/outro,...)

I think "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" would be a good example.

Even some classics like "I Want To Hold Your Hand ."  "Wait " is not a great song - but I really enjoy it thanks to the little harmonium (?) that pops up here in there ("wait ... zwing ... 'till I come back to your door...")

Any others?

John's "What Ya Got"from Walls And Bridges . Lyrics are nothing special, but the track is amazing to listen to, like John hijacked Stevie Wonder's band from that time period. Just a great sounding track.

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WETSRoosa said, "like John hijacked Stevie Wonder's band from that time period"

I see what you mean. Somehow sounds like a cross between Stevie Wonder and "Nobody Loves you (when you're down and out)"

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I think much of the MMT album is like this, title cut and "Blue Jay Way " and even those two big #1 hits. And "Only A Northern Song ", with its who-cares? improvised chaos, and which was around the same time period. Part of that weird immediate post-Pepper malaise - it seems they had more production/recording approaches (crazy and beautiful in combinations) than great songs. (And occasionally both, like in "Walrus".) 

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I think much of the MMT album is like this, title cut and "Blue Jay Way " and even those two big #1 hits. And "Only A Northern Song ", with its who-cares? improvised chaos, and which was around the same time period. Part of that weird immediate post-Pepper malaise - it seems they had more production/recording approaches (crazy and beautiful in combinations) than great songs. (And occasionally both, like in "Walrus".) 

from MMT, i would add Hello Goodbye (the lyrics to which, although somewhat inane, doesn't keep it from being one of my favorites). Also Baby You're A Rich Man , which is even worse.  But I think this topic is pretty subjective. As discussed in the spooky songs topic MMT is rather moody too.

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Any george-martin song from side 2 of Yellow Submarine ......

Sorry but my album side 2 is pristine! a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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I think much of the MMT album is like this, title cut and "Blue Jay Way " and even those two big #1 hits. And "Only A Northern Song ", with its who-cares? improvised chaos, and which was around the same time period. Part of that weird immediate post-Pepper malaise - it seems they had more production/recording approaches (crazy and beautiful in combinations) than great songs. (And occasionally both, like in "Walrus".) 

from MMT, i would add Hello Goodbye (the lyrics to which, although somewhat inane, doesn't keep it from being one of my favorites). Also Baby You're A Rich Man , which is even worse.  But I think this topic is pretty subjective. As discussed in the spooky songs topic MMT is rather moody too.

Yeah, "Hello Goodbye " and "All You Need Is Love " are the two #1s I had in mind there. (And yeah, many of these songs I hold in esteem too - you don't necessarily need a great song to make a great record!)

@Bongo , what a coincidence you mentioning YS, because I just bought myself a brand new copy of the CD less than an hour ago! First time in 20 years I've owned a copy of that album (I've made do with the '99 songtrack for awhile). And strictly speaking there are NO songs on Side Two! (songs are sung) But I still feel I owe it to myself to give that stuff a few listenings. 

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Songs are sung, how true! blue-meanie

I bet you you'll play it once and the 2nd half of your CD will be pristine too.a-hard-days-night-george-9

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Nonsense! I'll force myself to play it twice. (At least.) Same as I did the vinyl so many years ago! (Plus I've got more of patience for orchestral instrumental music these days than I did way back then.)

Another average song produced to greatness: "Eight Days A Week " (that sublime expanding intro)

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Good Night . Ringo's vocals are strong when isolated, but the lush accompaniment (those strings!) fits the call to innocence of the song fabulously. After enduring the difficult yet vaguely hopeful Revolution #9 this is exactly the song we needed and a transcendent album closer.

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Well I don't think Good Night is that so-so. It's terribly underrated and beautiful *sniff*

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Well I don't think Good Night is that so-so. It's terribly underrated and beautiful *sniff*

Sniff, sniff, ha-ha

They should have listened to george-martin and made the White Album a single E-LP (Extended Long Play) record without Revolution 9 & Good Night !. a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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Bongo said

ewe2 said
Well I don't think Good Night is that so-so. It's terribly underrated and beautiful *sniff*

Sniff, sniff, ha-ha

They should have listened to george-martin and made the White Album a single E-LP (Extended Long Play) record without Revolution 9 & Good Night !. a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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Respectfully disagree with you Bongo. For me, Revolution #9 is the soul of the album.

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As said before by people the White Album wouldnt be anywhere near as good if a) Revolution 9 was omitted and b) if it was a single disc. It works brilliantly because of its sprawling nature. That doesnt mean everything is great however.

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I would like to add Magical Mystery Tour to the list. I mean, I wouldn't call it a "so-so song", but it would be hard to pull off successfully. And they did pull it off. They're fab. 

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ewe2 said
Well I don't think Good Night is that so-so. It's terribly underrated and beautiful *sniff*

I like it too and it fits perfectly where it is.

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