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She's Leaving Home
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9 September 2014
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McCartney's always writing songs about specific people (Michelle , Rita, Eleanor, Martha [yes, I know], Vera, Maxwell, Molly, Nancy...) yet here, it's just "She" ...

Could have been Jan or Pam or Deb or Viv or Meg; but no, "she" ...

Does "she" represent a generation?

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Good observation Into the Sky with Diamonds, and if I dare say so a very plausible hypothesis. Let’s remember the song was released at a time when many Western, Mediterranean, & Latin American teenagers were leaving their homes, most likely to embrace the hippy movement. Great insight indeed.

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Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit” (“Perhaps one day it will be a pleasure to look back on even this”; Virgil, The Aeneid, Book 1, line 203, where Aeneas says this to his men after the shipwreck that put them on the shores of Africa)

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Joe, the owner of Beatles Bible, has a "Songs" tab up top with lots of interesting info on the songs.  Apparently, Paul wrote the lyrics (with some help from John) based on a newspaper clipping he read about a teenage girl who had run away from home, named Melanie Coe, and she was quoted later as saying:

The amazing thing about the song was how much it got right about my life. It quoted the parents as saying 'We gave her everything money can buy,' which was true in my case. I had two diamond rings, a mink coat, handmade clothes in silk and cashmere and even my own car.

Then there was the line 'After living alone for so many years,' which really struck home to me because I was an only child and I always felt alone. I never communicated with either of my parents. It was a constant battle...

I heard the song when it came out and thought it was about someone like me but never dreamed it was actually about me. I can remember thinking that I didn't run off with a man from the motor trade, so it couldn't have been me! I must have been in my twenties when my mother said she'd seen Paul on television and he'd said that the song was based on a story in a newspaper. That's when I started telling my friends it was about me.

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Well, there's an app on android market called "Beatles Songs Facts". The app has some info of a very few songs on every album, I guess a good one for time passing and little more info. For She's Leaving Home , it says that it was about a girl who left home (she was from a rich family) and it was in news, so paul got inspiration from paper. The app says Paul also met the girl in 1963 and app also mention its name. But i don't know why he doesn't mention her name, maybe that's cause she's a real girl and beatlemanic who would do something(stalking), Paul would be sorry for 

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Hey Jude said
Well, there's an app on android market called "Beatles Songs Facts". The app has some info of a very few songs on every album, I guess a good one for time passing and little more info. For She's Leaving Home , it says that it was about a girl who left home (she was from a rich family) and it was in news, so paul got inspiration from paper. The app says Paul also met the girl in 1963 and app also mention its name. But i don't know why he doesn't mention her name, maybe that's cause she's a real girl and beatlemanic who would do something(stalking), Paul would be sorry for 

He met her on the "Ready, Steady, Go" show in 1963.

Here is the video (it starts at about 5:55): 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?.....6J12gmgiYs

The fourth contestant is Melanie Coe.

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Thanks Beatleva. Thanks to you, "She" now has a face in my mind.

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Here is the newspaper story that Paul saw on the front page of The Daily Mirror on 27 February 1967 (the resolution isn't good enough to read, sorry! best I could find):

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Here she is in 2008 when she was interviewed by The Daily Mail:

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It's a fantastic story and she's a lady who has certainly lived.

In 1969 she was even dating:

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Ron Nasty said
Here is the newspaper story that Paul saw on the front page of The Daily Mirror on 27 February 1967 

In 1969 she was even dating:

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Is that Ron Nasty in disguise.. brian-epstein

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Guys, do you really mean he met this girl in 1963 and read an article about her in 1967? I suppose he didn’t recognize her or her name four years later. Talk about chance, or fate.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit” (“Perhaps one day it will be a pleasure to look back on even this”; Virgil, The Aeneid, Book 1, line 203, where Aeneas says this to his men after the shipwreck that put them on the shores of Africa)

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I Heared About This In Beatles On Dvd :

http://www.beatlesondvd.com/19.....04-bea.htm

Also I Like She Leaving Home Because Was Recorded On My Birthday (17 Of March) Who Also Is The Birthday Of Pattie Boyd

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Does Paul's vocal on this song sound like he has a cold to you? I always got that distinct impression. 

It verges from the sublime to the ridiculote

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Not to me but then i dont listen to the song very often.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of 'self' to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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I always skip She's Leaving Home when I listen to Sgt. Pepper , it's a bore to listen to. 

I am you as you are you as you are you and you are all together. 

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The one notable aspect I find about 'She's Leaving Home ' is how much the unedited track jars; George M was right to cut those two descending cello passages out.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of 'self' to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
McCartney's always writing songs about specific people (Michelle , Rita, Eleanor, Martha [yes, I know], Vera, Maxwell, Molly, Nancy...) yet here, it's just "She" ...

Could have been Jan or Pam or Deb or Viv or Meg; but no, "she" ...

Does "she" represent a generation?

What about She Loves You ?  Who’s she???

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Bongo said

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
McCartney's always writing songs about specific people (Michelle , Rita, Eleanor, Martha [yes, I know], Vera, Maxwell, Molly, Nancy...) yet here, it's just "She" ...

Could have been Jan or Pam or Deb or Viv or Meg; but no, "she" ...

Does "she" represent a generation?

What about She Loves You ?  Who’s she???

She's A Woman

John sang about her.

Paul wrote about her but gave it away.

 

We're off topic.

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I found and interesting video in which the harpist Sheila Bromberg recalls playing on She's Leaving Home . At the end of the video, there is a short interview with her and Ringo seeing each other for the first time.

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Martha said
I found and interesting video in which the harpist Sheila Bromberg recalls playing on She's Leaving Home . At the end of the video, there is a short interview with her and Ringo seeing each other for the first time.

  

Saw this not long ago also - pretty cool video! The Yellow Submarine bit at the end with Ringo getting confused is hilarious.

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Martha said
I found and interesting video in which the harpist Sheila Bromberg recalls playing on She's Leaving Home . At the end of the video, there is a short interview with her and Ringo seeing each other for the first time.

  

 I remember watching Ringo's appearance on 'The One Show'. He was being his normal deadpan self which no one got, was really funny watching.
 

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