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Every Non-Album Song
8 March 2020
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Out of the 220 "canon" studio songs by the Beatles, 172 of them where released either inside an official UK release, assuming that they had an intended place on the album, or where released as a single that later was put inside an official album. This topic focuses on ranking the 48 songs that I could put together that still don't feel like album tracks fully, don't fit any specifically intended tracklist, don't connect to any other tracks necessarily, etc. Also Yellow Submarine , just for kicks. It mostly goes about tracks only released between 1962 - 1970, and with a flimsy placement on an album, EP or single (or non at all, as it is the case of Across The Universe Wildlife).

I think it is valid because there are not enough choices for it to be too long of a topic. And songs as She Loves You , Hey Jude , Rain and other classics could be fun to discuss inside of a rank context. This is such a diverse set of songs it could as well come into a discussion about the songs themselves and how to compare widely different material, and what to judge it by.

I'll list the 48 songs below in order of release and then make my own list.

This includes Past Masters , and most of the MMT songs, given it wasn't strictly a UK released album, but an EP and singles only fully released on the US. Yellow Submarine tracks will be included as well courtesy of a proposition by @Dark Overlord because what the heck, it is more of soundtrack, the Beatles had little to no involvement on the project, and it's only a Side A. It does feel more like an EP as much as MMT does. Besides it adds to the diversity. This tracklist is open to discussion by the way. Also it can be debated if Long Tall Sally , Slow Down , Matchbox and Bad Boy shouldn't be included, since they are covers. I decided to include them given that the album rankings require you to rank also the covers. It is up to you to modify your own list as you please as long as you justify it.

Finally, take into account this are only the studio single release versions. That means Revolution doesn't equate to Revolution 1 , and Don't Let Me Down is the single version, not the rooftop version (...Naked), etc...

 

The singles:

 

Love Me Do (Single) (October 1962)

From Me To You (April 1963)

Thank You Girl (April 1963)

She Loves You (August 1963)

I'll Get You (August 1963)

I Want To Hold Your Hand (November 1963)

This Boy (November 1963)

Komm, gib mir deine Hand (February 1964)

Sie liebt dich (February 1964)

Slow Down (June 1964)

Matchbox (June 1964)

Long Tall Sally (June 1964)

I Call Your Name (June 1964)

I Feel Fine (November 1964)

She's A Woman (November 1964)

Yes It Is (April 1965)

Bad Boy (June 1965)

I'm Down (July 1965)

We Can Work It Out (December 1965)

Day Tripper (December 1965)

Paperback Writer (May 1966)

Rain (May 1966)

Penny Lane (February 1967)

Strawberry Fields Forever (February 1967)

All You Need Is Love (July 1967)

Baby, You're a Rich Man (July 1967)

Hello, Goodbye (November 1967)

I Am The Walrus (November 1967)

Magical Mystery Tour (November 1967)

Your Mother Should Know (November 1967)

The Fool On The Hill (November 1967)

Flying (November 1967)

Blue Jay Way (November 1967)

Lady Madonna (March 1968)

The Inner Light (March 1968)

Hey Jude (August 1968)

Revolution (August 1968)

Only A Northern Song (January 1969)

All Together Now (January 1969)

Hey Bulldog (January 1969)

It's All Too Much (January 1969)

Get Back (Single) (April 1969)

Don't Let Me Down (April 1969)

The Ballad Of John And Yoko (May 1969)

Old Brown Shoe (May 1969)

Across The Universe (WWF/NOGCOW Release) (December 1969)

Let It Be (Single) (March 1970)

You Know My Name (Look Up the Number) (March 1970)

 

Discuss.

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I hate these ranking threads but we already a ranking Past Masters thread, do we really need another that just leaves a few songs off? And why exclude the German recordings? Why exclude the single versions of Love Me Do Get Back  and Let It Be , all different to their album versions? And the World Wildlife Fund version of Across The Universe ?

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9 March 2020
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@Ron Nasty primarily because I thought I would find a thread to rank songs exclusively that aren't on the albums, because the first thing that appears when you look those topics up is the first thing it appears, but it wasn't there so I just created one.

You're right about the Love Me Do / Get Back / Let It Be issue. Not like the differences of those tracks with their single versions are miles apart, for me at least. But people can include those version of tracks into their ranking, if that's what you're saying. I proposed those 27 tracks because those where the ones that came up when you name Non-Album tracks, which is what the thread is supposed to be about. That's the difference between Across The Universe vs. Across The Universe against Revolution vs. Revolution 1 . Just how much the Beatles and their marketing department where trying to differentiate the tracks from themselves. She Loves You in German is just She Loves You . Revolution 1 apparently is not Revolution . This is according to the name they put it to differentiate, I don't know if I'm making myself clear.

If people want to take this method as a ranking of not the track, but the general idea of the song, that would also be great, and a new interesting way to approach the topic. You know, not getting hang up on versions, and recordings, and ghost-vocals, solos and mildly specific production points. If they don't want to do it that way, that is also okay.

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The trouble is that, most people when they rank songs, are ranking performance as well as the song, and as shown in the Canon polls that have been done on the forum, many people rank the same song differently depending on the performance.

Also, if you're representing their material via its original UK release, then you're ignoring the three singles and double EP that make up the US Magical Mystery Tour  album that was only later added to the Canon albums.

This list would be more interesting if it was to include all official recordings that were not released on a standard Beatles UK album between 1962-1970.

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9 March 2020
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@Jules just for grins I looked up the forum poll ranks for these songs (plus XM top 100) to see if we could spot any patterns. For point of reference purposes, the forum's definition of canon consists of 220 songs.

 

SONG

2015

2018

XM 100

From Me To You (April 1963)

115

111

Not ranked

Thank You Girl (April 1963)

205

205

Not ranked

She Loves You (August 1963)

28

52

44

I'll Get You (August 1963)

186

189

Not ranked

I Want To Hold Your Hand (November 1963)

37

27

29

This Boy (November 1963)

90

83

Not ranked

Slow Down (June 1964)

200

208

Not ranked

Matchbox (June 1964)

208

217

Not ranked

Long Tall Sally (June 1964)

136

140

Not ranked

I Call Your Name (June 1964)

143

189

Not ranked

I Feel Fine (November 1964)

36

67

50

She's A Woman (November 1964)

138

147

Not ranked

Yes It Is (April 1965)

159

172

Not ranked

Bad Boy (June 1965)

207

199

Not ranked

I'm Down (July 1965)

124

95

Not ranked

We Can Work It Out (December 1965)

50

95

53

Day Tripper (December 1965)

15

21

36

Paperback Writer (May 1966)

37

21

48

Rain (May 1966)

23

7

37

Lady Madonna (March 1968)

88

42

71

The Inner Light (March 1968)

161

124

Not ranked

Hey Jude (August 1968)

33

47

3

Revolution (August 1968)

23

12

31

Don't Let Me Down (April 1969)

85

78

20

The Ballad Of John And Yoko (May 1969)

117

91

67

Old Brown Shoe (May 1969)

122

124

Not ranked

You Know My Name (Look Up the Number) (March 1970)

175

182

Not ranked

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Wow, some of these leave me speechless. 

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Ron Nasty said
The trouble is that, most people when they rank songs, are ranking performance as well as the song, and as shown in the Canon polls that have been done on the forum, many people rank the same song differently depending on the performance.

Also, if you're representing their material via its original UK release, then you're ignoring the three singles and double EP that make up the US Magical Mystery Tour  album that was only later added to the Canon albums.

This list would be more interesting if it was to include all official recordings that were not released on a standard Beatles UK album between 1962-1970.

  

I totally agree with this.  Especially if we are removing songs that are already on other albums in different forms.  It would make it more than just a cut-down version of Past Masters .  Toss the first 10 tracks of the US MMT album in there.

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What about the 5 non-album tracks on Yellow Submarine . While some may argue that it's a proper Beatles album because it was released in the UK, others like myself argue that it isn't because only side A contains Beatles music.

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Dark Overlord said
What about the 5 non-album tracks on Yellow Submarine . While some may argue that it's a proper Beatles album because it was released in the UK, others like myself argue that it isn't because only side A contains Beatles music.

  

Whether or not I agree with you, the number is four, unless you're referring to All You Need Is Love which also appears on Magical Mystery Tour . That's a whole other can of worms.

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William Shears Campbell said  I totally agree with this.  Especially if we are removing songs that are already on other albums in different forms.  It would make it more than just a cut-down version of Past Masters .  Toss the first 10 tracks of the US MMT album in there.

I wasn't aware I was still receiving feedback for this thread.

You know what, I like the idea, I should check properly which tracks would fit that description because @Dark Overlord also mentioned Yellow Submarine , which is also an interesting proposition, even if MMT makes a more convincing case.

I want to apologize for the confusion regarding the Past Masters ranking because at first I didn't know this forum took it into account at all, given there is no "Past Masters " headland on the "Albums" section (even though there are "Live At The BBC " and "Love" ones, which I think is bulsh*t). I didn't know there was a Past Masters ranking (which I visited and left my ranking as well).

So, yes, I will shake up the thread, just give me a minute.

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Dark Overlord said
What about the 5 non-album tracks on Yellow Submarine . While some may argue that it's a proper Beatles album because it was released in the UK, others like myself argue that it isn't because only side A contains Beatles music.

  

So here's the crossroad. If I'm going to include the MMT EP/LP tracks under the excuse of "non-UK released" then not only can't I include the YS tracks, but also All You Need Is Love will be taken off, which is something I didn't think off previously. So it is either one side of the discography or the other. I will include them for now under the blanket of "not with an intended tracklist" but I'm torn. If too many people disagree I will end up taking them out, but sure, I'll add them if that's what you want.

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