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Overrated vs. Underrated songs
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A lot of the Beatles songs were written quickly...to me this makes them even more fabulous and amazing...even the songs they "tossed off" were better than a lot of what was (and is) out there. And if the lyrics are not always incredibly deep, well, as Paul said, they weren't writing literature, just rock and roll. And no one did it better, then or since.

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paulsbass said
Too bad, I thought Artie Fink had brought more sense and sensibility to the subject, and here we're back to talking about "overrated" (Come together) again...

By ''overrated'', I didn't mean to say that it's not a good song. Anyone who says that must be off their trolly! However, Come Together is a song that's played a lot on 60's radio stations, somebody quoted the other day that it's one of the best songs of the sixties, it's talked about a lot between Beatles and non-Beatles fans. And it deserves to be, of course it does! But there's so many others that don't get a say and they're the ones that I consider to be ''underrated'', the ones that  should sometimes pop up in Beatles conversations, does anybody remember that song, it's great isn't it? A little overshadowed by some other good ones. That kinda thing. I hope I didn't offend anybody or anything like that because I really don't think that Come Together is a bad song. May there be peace.heart

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17 June 2012 - 10.05pm

paulsbass said

When literally billions of people know a song like Obladi, Oblada, it can't be all bad.And if you are among the best known songs of the best known band in the world you don't have to take sh... from anyone!

I HIGHLY contest that Ob-la-di Ob-la-da is one of the best known Beatles songs. It's probably about par for the course for a Beatles song, and a long way behind their singles, or very well known songs like Here Comes The Sun. According to last.fm it is the 28th most listened Beatles song of the last 6 months, though that includes duplicate listens.

Don't you think Revolution #9 is awful? The most famous piece of avant-garde music ever? a-hard-days-night-george-10

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17 June 2012 - 11.02pm

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Don't you think Revolution #9 is awful? The most famous piece of avant-garde music ever? a-hard-days-night-george-10

No. I dont know much avant-garde outside of some of John and Yokos other work but i find it a very effective piece of work which suggests in roughly 8 minutes how a Revolution would sound. Every time i listen to it (not very regular or often) there is something new to hear. The stereo mix is a lot more disturbing with the panning having a detrimental affect on my ears. 

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17 June 2012 - 11.08pm

The Walrus said

I HIGHLY contest that Ob-la-di Ob-la-da is one of the best known Beatles songs. It's probably about par for the course for a Beatles song, and a long way behind their singles, or very well known songs like Here Comes The Sun. According to last.fm it is the 28th most listened Beatles song of the last 6 months, though that includes duplicate listens.

It's a free country, feel free to contest whatever you like!

Out of interest, where does last.fm rank Yellow submarine?

Doesn't say much about how many people know the song, imo.

Don't you think Revolution #9 is awful? The most famous piece of avant-garde music ever? a-hard-days-night-george-10

1.) Yes.

2.) I HIGHLY contest the latter sentence. AND I contest that it is music at all, but that's just me. Others might find something in there, and they are free to do so, thank God.

3.) I don't see the point here.

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18 June 2012 - 1.02am

Underrated: For No One

                  Within You Without You

                  Nowhere Man

                  I've Got A Feeling

                  Piggies

                  If I Needed Someone

                  I Call Your Name

                  I'll Cry Instead

                  One After 909

I dont have an overrated list but Im shocked to see so many on here list Let it be as overrated. One of my favorite beatle songs. The film of Paul singing it while playing the piano during the making of the movie is an iconic Beatle moment. Also so much dislike for All You Need Is Love is very surpising. I think its a good song. Also another iconic Beatle moment of them singing it with a bunch of other people including Mick Jagger while being telecast all over the world.

                  

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20 June 2012 - 10.17am

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It's hard for me to say this. And I'm not saying these songs are bad, I honestly love them, I just think they are playeda bit too much (which isn't a bad thing at all!)

Overrated:

I Wanna Hold Your Hand

Can't Buy Me Love

Yellow Submarine

Hey Jude

Come Together

Let It Be

 

And the Underrated:

It's Only Love

All Together Now

I'll Follow The Sun

Tell Me Why

P.S. I Love You

All I've Got To Do

You've Really Got A Hold On Me

Another Girl

The Night Before

 

I honestly love every song that I have listed here. I don't mean they are overrated in a bad way or it is bad that they are very well known. I just mean they are played a lot...

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5 September 2012 - 1.29am

Underrated:

Glass Onion (amazing bassline by Paul)

Long, Long, Long (beautiful song with an amazing melody)

Baby's In Black (great harmonies)

I Don't Want To Spoil The Party (love the chord progression)

If I Fell (just a nice song :) )

You Can't Do That (really aggressive vocal and solo, played by John)

It's Only Love (another nice one)

Two Of Us (awesome bassline again)

For You Blue (I don't know what it is, but something about this song just grabs me)

Blue Jay Way (some of Ringo's best work, especially the incredible fill right before the tempo increases, unfortunately the drums are mixed terribly)

Yes It Is (the underrated little brother to This Boy, but I prefer it, especially the guitar with the strange effect on it)

Old Brown Shoe (probably Paul's fastest, fiddly-est bassline :P )

Ask Me Why (great harmonies)

There's a Place (probably my favourite Beatles middle eight)

I'm Only Sleeping (love the vocals and bassline)

I Want To Tell You (Paul's high harmony is amazing)

If I Needed Someone (nice relaxing song, great harmonies again!)

Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite! and Lovely Rita (amazing bass work [I feel like I'm repeating myself! :D ])

Don't Bother Me (great early George song)

Hold Me Tight (energetic, fast rocker)

Devil In Her Heart (lovely harmonies)

Not A Second Time (listening to this song, I can't believe it's nearly 50 years ago. Not the best lyrics ever, but musically it was waaaaaaay ahead of its' time)

Only A Northern Song (last one! :D another great bassline from Paul, amidst all the dissonance)

 

Overrated:

Here Comes The Sun (it's a great song, but I think Long, Long, Long is George's best)

You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (great lyrics, but just seems to fall flat)

Yesterday (sorry, but this is one of the most overrated songs ever! The Beatles had so many better ballads like This Boy, If I Fell, It's Only Love, etc, that I prefer to this)

Penny Lane (just a bit boring)

Love Me Do (probably the only Beatles song that sounds dated)

In My Life (lovely song, but gets way more credit than it deserves)

When I'm Sixty-Four (fun little song, but it's a bit silly really :P )

 

I hope my opinions don't upset anyone! D: and I don't just dislike the popular songs, so don't hate! :)

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5 September 2012 - 1.41am

Overrated:

In My Life
Let it Be
Come Together
Can't Buy Me Love
Ob La Di Ob La Da

Underrated:

Hey Bulldog
Lovely Rita
Sexy Sadie
Fool on the Hill
I've Got A Feeling
Martha My Dear
For You Blue
Long Long Long

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5 September 2012 - 3.57am

I have a quick question that is pretty close to topic: 

If someone says "oh I love the Beatles!" and you ask them their favorite song, do you get anything like "Hey Jude" or "Here Comes The Sun," a more popular Beatles song? And does that qualify it as being overrated? Because I find some songs like "Within You Without You" to be much more inspiring and thought-provoking. I'd consider that to be underrated in my opinion.

Hope that made sense and I jumped all the way to the ninth page so I know I missed a lot, sorry if this a repeat of someone else!

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5 September 2012 - 12.34pm

meanmistermustard said

No. I dont know much avant-garde outside of some of John and Yokos other work but i find it a very effective piece of work which suggests in roughly 8 minutes how a Revolution would sound. Every time i listen to it (not very regular or often) there is something new to hear. The stereo mix is a lot more disturbing with the panning having a detrimental affect on my ears.

Granted, the mono mix is just a fold-down of the stereo mix.  a-hard-days-night-john-1

 

My Top 5 choices for Most Overrated:

1. "Hey Jude"

2. "Yesterday"

3. "She's Leaving Home"

4. "She Loves You"

5. "A Day In The Life"

 

My Top 5 choices for Most Underrated:

1. "It's All Too Much"

2. "Two of Us"

3. "Long, Long, Long"

4. "It Won't Be Long"

5. "All I've Got To Do"

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7 September 2012 - 1.40am

Interesting topic. I'm just going to list songs that you have been calling "overrated" as, I dunno, "overused" or something.

Overrated

Let It Be - I loathe what Spector did to it.. When I heard the naked version I was surprised how much better it was. Yet, the other version is probably what I hear people singing the most.

Hey Jude - I really enjoy Hey Jude, but it's a bit long, and it IS overrated. I don't normally like it when the piano's far louder than everything else. 

Love Me Do - They've got better.

Yesterday - I understand it's a nice tune and all. Paul has many tunes I'd choose over this.

Long and Winding Road - The naked version is miles above Spector's, yet.. What a shame. His version is overrated.

Underrated

Not Guilty - Even by the Beatles themselves; it didn't even make it to the White Album; but I really like the guitar work, and it has to be one of my favorites.

Good Morning Good Morning - Nobody really talks about it from Sgt Pepper, but taking apart the MOGG file in audacity was fun, and it's my favorite.

Hey Bulldog - Great riff, great piano, bass, guitar; yet nobody knows it exists..?

Paperback Writer / Rain - I'm putting these together, because they go together; Yeah, I think these are better than the Day Tripper / I Feel Fine combo.

Tomorrow Never Knows - One of the more influential songs they have, but again, the only people that really talk about it are big fans or musicians or the like. Not really sure.

Things We Said Today - Everybody just loves And I Love Her.. Hey, guys, Paul wrote this too.. My favorite on the album.

Every Little Thing - I thought it sounded really modern when I first heard it.. Not sure why. Nobody really knows about this song.

Two of Us - I like the aside at the beginning even though that's not what Paul intended.. 

One After 909 (Rooftop) - George nailed that solo.

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7 September 2012 - 3.27pm

I wouldn't call let it be, Hey Jude and The Long And Winding Road. I also don't like spector's let it be version very much (mainly because he mixed out the backing vocals) still I think the naked version is even worse, because it hasn't got the strings, the solo is terrible and I think the bassline is different. The best version imo is the single version (imo the album version solo and the single version are tye same good. The only thing I prefer in the album version over the solo version, is the guitar during the final chorus (it's i think also on the single version but very quiet). I don't think paperback writer is underrated it's very well known, on 1, the Red Album (and now also on Tomorrow Never Knows) and I even know some people who say it's the best beatles. I like the song, but I think it's well-rated (as are let it be, Hey Jude and The Long And Winding Road imo)

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7 September 2012 - 9.00pm

Holsety said

Paperback Writer / Rain - I'm putting these together, because they go together; Yeah, I think these are better than the Day Tripper / I Feel Fine combo.

Isn't it Day Tripper/We Can Work It Out?

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7 September 2012 - 9.13pm

Either that or "I Feel Fine/She's A Woman" (both good combos!)

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7 September 2012 - 9.54pm

I'm okay with We Can Work It Out and She's A Woman; I just put them together because they're both from 1965 and go around a riff. I really just listed the songs as heard too much and heard not enough, instead of overrated and underrated. I wouldn't really call any Beatles overrated, but some people only acknowledge certain songs.

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GeorgeTSimpson said
I wouldn't call let it be, Hey Jude and The Long And Winding Road. I also don't like spector's let it be version very much (mainly because he mixed out the backing vocals) still I think the naked version is even worse, because it hasn't got the strings, the solo is terrible and I think the bassline is different. The best version imo is the single version (imo the album version solo and the single version are tye same good. The only thing I prefer in the album version over the solo version, is the guitar during the final chorus (it's i think also on the single version but very quiet). I don't think paperback writer is underrated it's very well known, on 1, the Red Album (and now also on Tomorrow Never Knows) and I even know some people who say it's the best beatles. I like the song, but I think it's well-rated (as are let it be, Hey Jude and The Long And Winding Road imo)

 

From what I've read, the group themselves actually added the orchestration to the final Let It Be version of the song, not Spector.  The only thing he actually did to the song was add the third repeat of the chorus at the end (which I like, since it's repeated once after the first verse, and then twice after the second verse; you can't beat numerical progression  ahdn_george_06).  The album version of the song is also the only version I'm aware of  (taking into account the single, Anthology 3 and Naked versions as well) in which George's guitar solo doesn't sound totally robotic.

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8 September 2012 - 3.42pm

I'll take my chances. I prefer hearing the instruments, although I forgot about the Anthology version.

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I believe that Two of Us has been received quite well, though, and Julia as well- the are just not as famous as some "classics" ( I love Cry Baby, too, one song that I'll probably never be able to sing!)

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