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8 May 2012
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Does anyone know the correct personnel for Not A Second Time ? I ask due to differences in the following

Revolution In The Head

Lennon: Double-tracked vocal, Acoustic Guitar.

McCartney: Bass.

Harrison: Acoustic Guitar.

Starr: Drums.

Martin: Piano.

(Wiki uses this as its source, at times it uses Beatles Bible as the source.)

Beatles Bible

Lennon: Vocal, Acoustic Rhythm Guitar.

McCartney: Bass.

Starr: Drums.

Martin: Piano.

Beatles Songs (a book written by William J. Dowling)

Lennon: Vocal, Acoustic Guitar.

Starr: Drums.

Martin: Piano.

(uses The Beatles on Record (1982) as source which says that Paul and George H werent present. However George H would surely have been at the session as Dont Bother Me was recorded afterwards (tho he may have been late) as was Paul)

So 3 sources with differing players. New information may have been discovered since RITH was published. I have no idea.

(Due to the decrease in personnel numbers as source #'s inclrease im half expecting a book to say John wasnt present.)

Lewisohn doesnt mention who's on the track.

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9 May 2012
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I think I took George out after reading (musicologist) Walter Everett's books, which are mostly excellent but occasionally incorrect. He said GH isn't on the song. However, some of the comments on the song page suggest there is a second guitar after all, which can be heard more clearly on the stereo remaster. I haven't given it a listen yet. What do other people think?

I'm pretty sure there's bass guitar on there, though as with much of the early Beatles recordings you might have to crank up the bass levels to hear it properly.

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9 May 2012
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There is definately a bass line, its buried pretty deep but it is there.

Will listen again to see if i can hear George's acoustic, its meant to be more hearable at John's first 'cry'.

Thanks Joe for the reply and link to the comments.

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Someone in the comments thread suggests it's George's Gretsch, not an acoustic.

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Yeah sorry. Was doing other things whilst replying and acoustic slipped thru. Should concentrate more. a-hard-days-night-ringo-13

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The piano break in this reminds me of Brian Epstein -- it's so polite. brian-epstein It makes an effective counterpoint to John's angry ranting.

I also love the daffy overlaps of the double-tracked scatting at the end. a-hard-days-night-john-6

Edit: In re the very interesting discussion above, I definitely hear a guitar, and it could well be a Gretsch. If there is bass, it's well buried.

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In re the very interesting discussion above, I definitely hear a guitar, and it could well be a Gretsch. If there is bass, it's well buried.

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