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Looking for funny/interesting alternate takes...
26 December 2011
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Mod edit: This thread is now locked. Please go here instead to discuss this subject.

We’ve all heard the horror stories about early takes of songs that could’ve been drastically different… Recently, an early take of George Martin’s solo on “In My Life ” surfaced, with Martin on a Vox Continental organ instead of the sped-up piano:

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV5cQMY2MME?fs=1&feature=oembed%5D

 

Additionally, I’ve read that…

– an early Maestro fuzz-box was used in sessions for “She Loves You ” and “Don’t Bother Me

– there’s a take of “Yesterday ” featuring John on hammond organ, accompanying Paul

– “Girl” had a fuzz-guitar line played by George that was just barely left out of the final mix

 

Does anyone know where to find any of these early takes? Post similar ones here, if you’d like.

26 December 2011
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Well… It isn't utterly horrible but I prefer the one that actually made its way to the recorded version.

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That alternate organ solo on in my life surfaced years, i think it was first on a bootleg called From Me To You on the Roaring Mouse label.

I’ll admit i’d never heard of any of the others before, its always cool to learn new stuff.

A little googling shows that Johns hammond organ playing on Yesterday was never recorded so will never appear on bootleg.

The fuzz box was used on early takes of Dont Bother Me but these have never been bootleg or officially released – yet.

Chapter 6

“Early studio effects

Continuing with their relentless schedule of live gigs, television appearances and radio shows, The Beatles found time to get into Abbey Road studio 2 again to continue work for their second LP, With The Beatles . On September 11th and 12th they recorded ‘All I’ve Got To Do ‘, ‘Not A Second Time ‘, ‘Don’t Bother Me ‘, ‘Little Child ‘ and ‘I Wanna Be Your Man ‘. Lennon and McCartney had written the latter song just days before and given it to The Rolling Stones, who also recorded it, as the a-side of their second single. Gibson’s Maestro Fuzz-Tone distortion box, first experimented with by the group on the ‘She Loves You ‘ sessions a few months earlier, was tried again, this time by Lennon on early takes of ‘Don’t Bother Me ‘, but again it did not make the final issued version.

A journalist present at the session reported that the first take was not too successful. “When they had rearranged the opening bars, John produced a fuzz box … John was knocked out with the result, but George Martin wasn’t too happy. ‘You’ll have to do something, John,’ said Martin. ‘It’s already distorting from the amplifier. Do you think it sounds OK? Are you sure about it?'” The vote went against the fuzz box. Harrison, the report continued, asked engineer Norman Smith,”                    

                                                                 Copyright BEATLES GEAR by Andy Babiuk

(found that on the web so apologies if incorrect)

 

No outtakes of She Loves You have ever surfaced so far.

 

The only alternate version of Girl available is a monitor mix of the backing track. However the Girl multitracks from Rock Band have surfaced and you might be able to hear it on one of the isolated tracks which can be found on this thread.

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I’ve heard some interesting takes of Hey Jude (take 8 or 9 I think) which sound a lot better than the final take in my opinion and there is even video footage of it. A good watch if you haven’t seen it already

 

 

[youtube [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcS_6X0fevo?fs=1'feature=oembed

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That's amazing to learn that they were experimenting with the fuzzbox less than a year after the Ventures introduced it to the music world!  To think that they could've beaten the Stones by a full two years if they'd used it…Is “Beatles Gear” yet another book I need to read?

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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Does anyone have a link to one of the early versions of Something where George subsitutes words in as placeholders?

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Vonbontee, yes, “Beatles Gear” is a wonderful reference book for a musician.

Taxman , great outtake; love seeing those early versions.

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minime said:

Well… It isn’t utterly horrible but I prefer the one that actually made its way to the recorded version.

Same. I think the alternate take sounds like a Stylophone but I'm glad they didn't use it.

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Vonbontee, yes, “Beatles Gear” is a wonderful reference book for a musician.

Taxman , great outtake; love seeing those early versions.

 

'Anybody got a bit of money anybody got a bit of money'. I'm SO glad they never decided on that. It's terrible! No offence to those who like it. Does anyone prefer the Anthology version of 'Can't Buy Me Love' or is it just me?

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The Taxman said:

(First post on Beatles Bible woo)

 

I've heard some interesting takes of Hey Jude (take 8 or 9 I think) which sound a lot better than the final take in my opinion and there is even video footage of it. A good watch if you haven't seen it already

 

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcS_6X0fevo?fs=1&feature=oembed

 

[youtube [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcS_6X0fevo?fs=1%27feature=oembed

*drools* Wow that video is just WONDERFUL!! I love John pouting at 4:09 *drools*

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The Walrus said:

Does anyone have a link to one of the early versions of Something where George subsitutes words in as placeholders?

Sorry I haven't got a link – especially since I'm currently out of town – but I have heard a clip from those sessions, with George laughing about the silliness of the lyric “attracts me like a pomegranate”. It's heartwarming!

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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The Walrus said:

Does anyone have a link to one of the early versions of Something where George subsitutes words in as placeholders?

I think this is it but I don’t think it’s the full version

 

 

Also while we’re talking about alternate takes, on Anthology 1 you can hear Pete Best pete-best drumming on Love Me Do . It’s awful in my opinion.

 

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I dont think his drumming was awful, it would have been ok when playing live, but definately shows why George M wanted to hire another drummer. I’d be surprised to find many people who would have said a-hard-days-night-john-6a-hard-days-night-paul-2& mainly a-hard-days-night-george-7 were wrong to get Ringo in.

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Does anyone prefer the Anthology version of 'Can't Buy Me Love' or is it just me?

Yeah, me too! It sounds better, especially those backing vocals are cool.


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The Taxman said:

The Walrus said:

Does anyone have a link to one of the early versions of Something where George subsitutes words in as placeholders?

I think this is it but I don't think it's the full version

 

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW3Ax11lpvE?fs=1&feature=oembed

 

Also while we're talking about alternate takes, on Anthology 1 you can hear Pete Best pete-best drumming on Love Me Do . It's awful in my opinion.

 

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1mgIZrlLSE?fs=1&feature=oembed

Thanks!

Pretty mediocre drumming, I think anybody with a sense of rhythm could do that. Definitely not as good as Ringo.

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Take 7 of Hey Jude recorded on the 30th July which has a guitar part at the beginning which may be what Paul and George H disagreed about and ended with George sitting in the recording booth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..MgZf2fKxUk

 

And quite possibly the greatest outfake ever made of a beatles track.

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This Glass Onion could be better than the real one…

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 Agreed. (This isn’t letting me quote for some reason?)
Has that Glass Onion take been included on any CD / compilation at all?

I think it's great you're going through a phase,

and I'm awfully glad it'll all be over in a couple

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That faked Glass Onion is on a small number of bootlegs (More Sweet Apples, Rarities 2 – We Can Work It Out ) usually being passed as a rare or alternate mix. Its generally overlooked by bootleggers since its fake and created from the commercial version ie nothing new Beatle-wise.

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