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Letter from George to Astrid reveals new fact about the second single
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‘Getting to Shea Stadium’……….I thought what’s she on about?? I passed it once…….!! ??

 

And then I noticed the honour bestowed………I’m gonna run out of jokes or breathing before ‘roof top’

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It’s in this month’s edition of ‘Record Collector’, a UK magazine. He wrote to her in late ’62, saying they’d been given TWO songs to learn, neither of which they liked. 

So if How Do You Do It ? was one of them, what was the other one and what happened to it?

Hopefully, Mark Lewisohn’s book will solve the mystery!

Wouldn’t it be “Bad To Me”?

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Bongo said

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It’s in this month’s edition of ‘Record Collector’, a UK magazine. He wrote to her in late ’62, saying they’d been given TWO songs to learn, neither of which they liked. 

So if How Do You Do It ? was one of them, what was the other one and what happened to it?

Hopefully, Mark Lewisohn’s book will solve the mystery!

Wouldn’t it be “Bad To Me”?

According to both A Beatles Recording Timeline and Bootlegzone, the Bad To Me home demo was not recorded until around May or June 1963, so it’s a bit unlikely that Bad For Me had been written yet by that time.

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‘Bad To Me’ was written for Billy J. in or around May 1963 so couldnt have been.

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‘Bad To Me’ was written for Billy J. in or around May 1963 so couldnt have been.

Is this just something you’ve memorized, @meanmistermustard or do you remember what source this fact came from?  (Not doubting you, I just like learning more)

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Necko said

 

According to Bootlegzone, the Bad To Me home demo was not recorded until around May or June 1963, so it’s a bit unlikely that Bad For Me had been written yet by that time.

Good catch Necko.  For some reason, I have it in my canon as a 1962 unreleased song.  Better check my facts, and change it in my iTunes.

Time to get my Mark Lewisohn book out again! a-hard-days-night-ringo-15
   

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Those are always a good read.  No matter what, I always learn something new or read something that I forgot about when I pick them up.

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Thanks for the replies on that Paul/Donovan ditty, “How Do You Do?”.  But while it may seem to be a trivial doodle to some, to me it has great potential and I still suspect it’s some obscure old standard maybe from the 1940s (at least obscure to us…)

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You could try typing the lyrics into Google if you think it’s a real song, @Pineapple Records .

 

EDIT: Bootlegzone seems to think that the song was composed by Paul McCartney .  Bootlegzone doesn’t always have information that is 100% accurate, but they’re usually fairly accurate.

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Thanks Necko.

I was going to respond more fully here, but as I wrote it out, I realized I’d like to make a separate topic out of it in the Paul section (stay tuned…)

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@Pineapple Records Thanks for helping to keep the forum tidy! 

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Necko said

meanmistermustard said
‘Bad To Me’ was written for Billy J. in or around May 1963 so couldnt have been.

Is this just something you’ve memorized, @meanmistermustard or do you remember what source this fact came from?  (Not doubting you, I just like learning more)

Its in Richie Unterberger’s ‘The Unreleased Beatles’. Dont have the book to hand but it goes into the reasoning of the dating – i think it was written when or around the time John was in Paris with Brian.

Looking at Joe’s entry for that Paris trip (commencing 28th April 1963 and lasting for 12 days), there is a quote from John which notes ‘Bad To Me’ at the end.

I was on holiday with Brian Epstein in Spain, where the rumours went around that he and I were having a love affair. Well, it was almost a love affair, but not quite. It was never consummated. But it was a pretty intense relationship. 

It was my first experience with a homosexual that I was conscious was homosexual. He had admitted it to me. We had this holiday together because Cyn was pregnant, and I went to Spain and there were lots of funny stories. We used to sit in a cafe in Torremolinos looking at all the boys and I’d say, ‘Do you like that one, do you like this one?’ I was rather enjoying the experience, thinking like a writer all the time: I am experiencing this, you know. And while he was out on the tiles one night, or lying asleep with a hangover one afternoon, I remember playing him the song Bad To Me. That was a commissioned song, done for Billy J Kramer, who was another of Brian’s singers.

Regarding ‘How Do You Do’ John C Winn writes in ‘That Magic Feeling’

As the tape opens, Paul is singing what appears to be a nursery rhyme of his own creation ‘How Do You Do’,, although the lyrics about “sucking on a lollipopper” and “sitting on a woody pecker” can be taken more than one way! Donovan harmonizes in spots, and Paul does a double-time impression of the song as Danny Kaye might perform it.

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