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9 August 2017
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There are a total of 6 guitar parts in this song, John's Gibson acoustic, George's 12 string acoustic, Paul's Hofner, John's Fender, and 2 other parts by George that we will be talking about now.

The way George did the lead parts on his Gretsch Tennessean is like so, the 1st part is him playing the riff and the 2nd part is him with a capo on the 5th fret playing the open G string while wiggling his whammy bar back and forth to the pattern of the riff. Since he only does this during the chorus, we can only hear the 1st guitar during the verses and it also explains why the lead guitar sounds cleaner and quieter during the verse.

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9 August 2017
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vonbontee said
Wonder how this woulda sounded with a harmony or two on the chorus...

Any dark overlords out there know how that wavery guitar was done? I've assumed it was a tremelo knob on the amp, but recently I read something suggesting that it was a wang bar being wiggled rapidly, and that seems possible too. I'm pretty sure it's NOT the Leslie as has been suggested elsewhere, but I've been wrong before.  

From Joe's article on the song:

Lennon double-tracked his vocals onto take six, and five guitars were recorded: two acoustic, including a 12-string; and three electric guitars, with a tremolo effect applied to Harrison's 12-string Rickenbacker.

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9 August 2017
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I'm not so sure about that, Joe's articles occasionally have mistakes in them and the guitar in It's Only Love doesn't sound like a 12 string Rickenbacker. Also, it sounds fake to me when someone tries to recreate this effect with tremolo as opposed to a tremolo arm.

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10 August 2017
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It doesn't sound like the tremolo arm to me, the tremolo speed of the guitar line sounds too fast and precise. Plus it just sounds like an artificial effect. So yes, I think it was either an amp setting or effects pedal. I could be wrong of course ahdn_george_01

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10 August 2017
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According to Babiuk's Beatles Gear..., (pg. 286) George did a lot of experimenting with guitar volume swells using a volume pedal months earlier while they were recording songs to be used in the movie - 'Another Girl ', 'I Need You ' on 15 February. The book says he used it the next day on 'Yes It Is '. It wouldn't be the dumbest suggestion to say that pedal could have been used in this song when they recorded it on 15 June.  

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I'm in love with this song! heart Bit disappointed to read that John disliked the song in later years, but I personally think the lyrics are brilliant and the melody itself beautifly done.   

Yes! I totally agree with you: this song is beautiful, it's one of my favourite Beatles songs at the moment!a-hard-days-night-george-9

What I really love is that the song has a lot of drive and raw power (mainly John's vocals) and at the same time sounds very transparent and filigree. Take for example the rhythm guitar part: they play unremittingly with a lot of energy but they still sound very fair - I always have to think of fairies which fly around excitedly when I listen to those rhythm guitars although butterflies would probably be the better association, oh well. It's the same with Ringo's drumming - the drum part perfectly well integrates into the guitars as it sounds so bright and clear ( ...and there are rim shots!beatlemaniacs_02_gif).

Contrasting the graceful and light accompaniment of acoustic guitars and drums there is John's powerful and sometimes even raw voice (especially at the very beginning), this is such a great mixture in my opinion because it emphasises the complication and trouble which accompany the positive sides of being in love. And the best thing is, that this ambivalence of love is not only apparent in the music but also covered in the lyrics (Is it right that you and I should fight -every night?- Just the sight of you makes night time bright - Very bright) so there is a strong connection between lyrics and music ( another aspect where this can be seen is the frequent usage of the vocal 'i' which gives the song a very bright feeling - exactly the way rhythm guitars and drums sound like too.) My Oh My, I seem to love this song very much!

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14 August 2017
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Zig said
According to Babiuk's Beatles Gear..., (pg. 286) George did a lot of experimenting with guitar volume swells using a volume pedal months earlier while they were recording songs to be used in the movie - 'Another Girl ', 'I Need You ' on 15 February. The book says he used it the next day on 'Yes It Is '. It wouldn't be the dumbest suggestion to say that pedal could have been used in this song when they recorded it on 15 June.    

Pretty sure it's not a volume pedal - that'd have to be rocked back and forth pretty fast! 

The article is ambiguous, since it's unclear whether "tremelo effect" refers to an actual electronic effect or the effect produced by waggling the T-bar rapidly. Could George physically achieve that with the heel of his hand while simultaneously picking/strumming with the same hand?

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Like i said before, he's using 2 separate guitars to get that effect, one playing the normal riff and the other one playing an open G string with the capo on the 5th fret while rocking the whammy bar, or at least that's how i think it was done as the effect sounds more vibrato then tremolo.

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14 August 2017
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Ah, so the capo and the open strings meant that George woulda had his left hand free, gotcha.

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It's a very weird way to get that wobble effect but it works well if you have 2 guitars.

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