Von Bontee said
I would say by the end of the album he'd want to go back to where he began, downstream. The only problem is that you can only float one way, you'd have to swim the other, unless its a reversible river.... A switching stream, a crazy canal, bipolar brook!
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"Floating upstream" was so 10 songs ago.
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The only problem is that you can only float one way...
Unless it's a tidal river...
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Ahhh Girl said
Do you think the girl is still with him in "There's a Place" or is guy remembering a time in his past (maybe to the point of being delusional)?
"There is a place,
Where I can go,
When I feel low,
When I feel blue.
And it's my mind,"
When I feel low or blue, the last place I want to go is my mind. I have to get outside myself...fast. If I spend too much time in introspection, I just get lower and bluer. I wish I didn't feel this way. I'd like to be able to keep my own self entertained and happy like the guy in the song seems to be able to do. [end of psychological soap box]
This is my humble opinion about “There´s a Place”. It might be influenced by the way I feel about it –I don’t know to what extent I’m reading too much into the song. I believe it’s not a love song at all; it’s a song about John’s way of coping with reality disguised as a love song. “There’s a place,” he says, “where I can go, when I feel low, when I feel blue –and it’s my mind, and there’s not time when I’ alone”. Later in the song he sings “In my mind there’s no sorrow, there’ll be no sad tomorrow”. I think he introduced the romantic bits (“I think of you…” etc.) because at that time that is what was expected from a band like The Beatles, and probably because he felt he couldn’t just write about his mental universe. That would come later: Strawberry Fields, I am the Walrus, and above them all, Across The Universe. Is the girl part of that mental universe? Probably, but the song is more than that. I hope what I’m saying makes some sense to you guys; it’s hard for me to find the right words. You’re welcome to agree or disagree. Cheers,
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“Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit” (“Perhaps one day it will be a pleasure to look back on even this”; Virgil, The Aeneid, Book 1, line 203, where Aeneas says this to his men after the shipwreck that put them on the shores of Africa)
Hmm. Maybe I take too much of a simplistic view, but I usually like to believe that The Beatles didn't really start introspecting until later. Perhaps it's subconscious, like John said Help! was, but I can't be too sure. Did John ever say anything about There's a Place?
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In spite of [all the danger ] the "I think of you, and the things you do," etc., Ive never really thought about There's A Place as a love song.
I don't know how introspective it was, but I think it's thoughtful, an inspired by feelings other than love...
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Woah never thought that way about There's A Place. My thoughts on it were always ''oh another one of those lovesongs'' and I never truly paid attention to the lyrics, but now that you mention it, it doesn't sound like it's meant to be a lovesong at all. Interesting.
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