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9 November 2018
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Tony Japanese
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I've always considered this to be primarily John's song if only because he sang it. Discounting the tunes they wrote for George and Ringo, the only other example (I can think of) of the main composer not being the lead singer is Every Little Thing .

I don't necessarily agree with the suggestion that John's always right about songwriting credits, and Paul's just bitter et al. After all John once claimed to have written most of the words to Eleanor Rigby , whereas others (i.e. Pete Shotton) have suggested he contributed sod all. As with most things, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle and I expect the same is true about In My Life .

19 May 2020
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A week ago popular youtuber Rick Beato did a live streaming analysis of "In My Life " and put forth the proposition that George Martin is the co-author of the harmony because the chord progression and melody are complex and is universally known that the boys didn't read or write scores (at least at that point, I don't know if Paul later learned that ability) and their music theory knowledge was self-taught and unsystematic. So, what I think Beato says in a nutshell is that it's not possible to academically untrained musicians to write such great songs.

Ah, he also attribute main (partial) authorship to Paul, though it's one of John's masterpieces.

Anyways, that's a bold statement and that idea doesn't seem to be possible to me, and more importantly, there's lines that must not be crossed.

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19 May 2020
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You do not need to be able to technically write down music to come up with music, no more than someone needs to be able to physically write words to be good with spoken language.

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19 May 2020
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Ron Nasty said
You do not need to be able to technically write down music to come up with music, no more than someone needs to be able to physically write words to be good with spoken language.

  

Exactly what I think. They were studying by listening to R&B records, among other types of music.

I just remember a previous video by this youtuber where he explain that Kurt Cobain completed the harmonies in his songs with the melody of his voice over the power chords he played (these types of chords are incomplete, harmonically speaking), and he said that even though Kurt have limited theory knowledge, he did it intuitively.

But not the Beatles, who were Kurt's inspiration.

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The debate over ownership came up in the Bracket thread, and I argued that Paul and GM contributed to the composition of the song, but Rick is a bit bold in his claims in this video. I like Rick’s videos but his argument is a bit weak here. Surely John or Paul are capable of constructing that progression. As RN points out its rather intuitive, and not insanely complicated. 

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