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1 March 2016
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My favorite song on the Help album.  It has a nice mellow melody with some complex off-beat percussion.  Sounds very unique.

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But it's on Rubber Soul  a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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But it's on Rubber Soul  a-hard-days-night-paul-10

They made a new help running track with In My Life on it.

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This kind of stuff fascinates me and that's great work to uncover all that info @Ron Nasty    I once saw the original manuscript of In My Life in The British Library or British Museum in London I can't remember which. I'm not sure if it's still there to view. I've only ever made one trip to Liverpool but as a fan it felt like a religious experience seeing all the sites that I'd read about for so long. I also remember seeing some great footage on youtube about the tram routes of Liverpool including the Penny Lane area. 

I seem to remember The Dutch Cafe being mentioned in Pete Shotton's book and I think he had a connection with it around '63 or '64. 

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17 August 2016
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@Ron Nasty said 

John's original third verse ran:

Past the tramsheds with no trams
On the 5 bus into town
Past the Dutch and St. Columbus
To the Dockers Umbrella that they pulled down
 

[major snippage] 

I don't know exactly where "the tramsheds" were on Smithdown Road, but let's assume John is travelling down it in the right order, towards Liverpool, next we pass "the Dutch".

The "Dutch" is the "Old Dutch Café" on Smithdown Road, it was also known as "Dutch Eddie's" (though that seems to be a nickname associated with several places in Liverpool).

This is the only picture I know of the Dutch as a café (there must be others!), taken during February 1970.
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 [more snippage - oh the humanity!]

But, there you go, "the Dutch", a fascinating lost-Beatles site.

Can it still be found easily? Well, living in London, obviously hard to say, I can't say if it's still there, but...

You look at the 1970 picture I've included here, between the two windows, above Dutch, is the bottom of a sign. This is that sign in recent years:

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I found "the Dutch" more interesting the more I learned about it.
 

I discovered this on The Beatles Wiki site. It is an except of an interview with Charles Roberts, the gent who as a kid took the photo of The Quarry Men playing on Roseberry Street. Click on the link for the full article.

During '57 and '58 there were so many gigs, practice sessions and parties it is difficult all these years later to remember details. The Quarrymen had a few bookings at St Barnabas Church when they used to play during the interval. It was mainly ballroom dancing but when the lads took to the stage it quickly became Rock 'N' Roll with some skiffle and with Paul doing his Little Richard numbers.

On these nights we would usually meet up beforehand at the Rose of Mossley, the local pub. I think I was the only one who didn't like to drink "black velvets," a drink that was originally a mix of champagne and Guinness, but for us working class it had to be cider and Guinness which is quite a potent mix. After "Barney's" and other local events some of us would end up at the Old Dutch Cafe near Penny Lane on Smithdown Road. Dutchy's was one of the rare venues in those days where we could get something to eat and drink in the early hours. The cafe is no longer and is now a plumbing and bathroom shop called York and Young. They have retained the original Dutch windmill sign which can be clearly seen above the shop.

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17 August 2016
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Remind me, RN. Didn't we notice that the windmill was gone last year?

18 August 2016
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@Ahhh Girl  said
Remind me, RN. Didn't we notice that the windmill was gone last year?  

A March 2015 article from the website of the new tenant...

http://www.yorkandyoung.co.uk/.....mill-gone/

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18 August 2016
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Cool. Thanks, Zig. They have another post about the windmill being back http://www.yorkandyoung.co.uk/.....l-is-back/

So, it was taken down March 2015 and reinstalled April 2016. Yay, we will be able to see it this year.

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6 June 2017
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I made a custom stereo mix of the song, is there a way I can share it?

I made a valiant attempt with YouTube but they deleted it right away...  I was hoping the algorithm wouldn't recognize it with all the modifications.

6 June 2017
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Daily Motion would be one, others here may have other suggestions.

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6 June 2017
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I have a few:

1. use Vimeo, but have the video password protected so only people who have the password can view it.

2. use a site like ok.ru or Youku, on ok.ru, they have full albums posted and on Youku, they have those custom music videos that use footage from The Beatles Rock Band synced up to songs like Let It Be and Eleanor Rigby that aren't in the game.

3. use YouTube but do either 1 of 2 things:

A: record it being played back in low quality, I'd recommend following these steps:

1. place a cassette recorder on one side of the room with a type A cassette in it and it's also preferred that you use one that's old and has stuff recorded to it already.

2. place your device and it's speakers on the other side of the room, try to use internal speakers if possible.

3. press play on the cassette recorder.

4. press play on your video.

5. now that you have the cassette with your remix on it in fairly poor quality, keep everything where it is.

6. press play on your camera and microphone, internal ones are preferred.

7. press play on the cassette player that's on the other side of the room that's not at all connected to your computer.

8. upload to YouTube.

B: raise the pitch by a quarter or half step and then record yourself playing back the remix.

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6 June 2017
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Here is what i would do. Take the audio and slow it down to 75%. Then when you put it on youtube you can speed it up back to the original speed. 

Kind of like how they did the piano solo on the song. 

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1 August 2018
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Stylometry... John and Paul only disagree on authorship on a couple of occasions. This song is one of those occasions. John claims the whole song with the exception of Paul writing the "middle eight", while Paul claims the whole tune was his. Some of our finest brains have pulled apart their work and, based on their statistical analysis of various stylistic characteristics of the two songwriters, have come to the conclusion that...

...the probability that 'In My Life ' was written by McCartney is .018, which basically means it's pretty convincingly a Lennon song.

Though it should be noted, the same method of analysis...

came up with the author of The Word  as being Paul (who has never claimed it) instead of John (who did as "mainly" his).

It's good to see these big brains testing, nay pushing!, themselves to answer the big questions for the betterment of humanity... a-hard-days-night-george-10

Maybe we can get them onto the Ahhhhh's for a definitive answer to that one. ahdn_john_08_gif

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1 August 2018
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I'd love to know how they reached that number of 0.018...

And I'd also love to see statistics for WALHFMF (which has been claimed differently by a number of people....). 

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Maybe we can get them onto the Ahhhhh's for a definitive answer to that one. ahdn_john_08_gif  

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Perhaps this mathematical formula could be applied to 'Peace of Mind' to determine if it's even The Beatles...  Never doubted John's claim to 'In My Life 's creation...  a genuine John song if I'd ever heard one...:-)

11 August 2018
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The progression seems like Paul to me; based around a nice easy baseline with a soaring melody. Could be John as his musical prowess during that period was at a peak, however the music seems like an outlier of his other Rubber Soul songs. 

I dont think precise analytics can properly answer to these kinds of questions. 

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11 August 2018
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sir walter raleigh said
The progression seems like Paul to me; based around a nice easy baseline with a soaring melody. 

I've heard one of the experts of this study in an interview and he talked a little about the main differences between Paul and John as melody composers. He said that John used more standard musical motives, such as the common change of chords we can hear at the beginning of "It's Only Love " (the guitar chords). He also tends to stay at the same notes and change in short steps, such as in "All You Need Is Love . All You Need Is Love . All You Need Is Love , love..."; or "Half of what I say is meaningless, but I say it just to reach you..."

Paul, on the other hand, does more unusual things musically and takes more liberties with the melodic line. For example, larger chord jumps like in "Love Me Do ", when he sings: "Someone to love, SOMEBODY NEW. Someone to love, SOMEONE LIKE YOU", or in Eleanor Rigby : "All the lonely people, where do they all come from? All the lonely people, where DO THEY ALL BELONG?".

However, in the interview, he did not mention how these differences help us know that John wrote the melody of "In My Life ". I have always accepted Paul's version precisely because of the jumps in the melody: "There are places I reMEMBER all my life though some HAVE CHANGED. Some forever, not for BETTER...". This sounds more Paul to me. And also the way the notes play around the melody line in "with lovers and friends I still can recall. Some are dead and some are living".

I don't want to belittle Lennon. The lyrics are 100% his, and I think it is the best part of the song, and one of the better lyrics by the Beatles. But the melody has Paul's voice to me, and it is not that I do not believe in this research, but the researchers or the news reports have not done anything to convince me otherwise. 

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I saw the same article about math determining that it was John's song completely.  However, I had no problem with Paul writing the music, if he, in fact, did.  I have a question that maybe someone here can answer.

Did Paul ever say that he wrote the music to In My Life while John was still alive?  I don't think he started saying it until after John died.  I recall reading the Hit Parader interview with John back in 1972.  When it came to In My Life , John said, "That one is all mine.  I was writing melody with the best of them in those days."  Or, something to that effect.  I'm paraphrasing from memory.

I never heard or read any McCartney claim to the music until after 1980.  If I'm correct, then...shame on Paul, again.  John's not here to defend himself. 

Either way, it's one of their finest songs.  LOL!

EDIT: I just thought of one possibility.  Perhaps Paul knew that John had gone on record, claiming to have written the music.  And, maybe he preferred to let John take the credit as he didn't want to start another row in the press over it.  Then, after John died, he wanted to set the record straight.  This is very plausible to me.  It's a nicer scenario than the former one.  Agreed?

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On their differences in writing music, Paul was more versatile and, for lack of a better word, colorful.  John's tunes, to me, seem simpler but not in a bad way.  He could do more with less.  And this style of writing continued after the Beatles.  Mind Games is a perfect example of a great song with very simple music.  Love is another.  I could go on and on.  While Paul was, as someone said, far more adventurous and had a real internal gift for melody and harmony.  Penny Lane is the epitome of this.

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