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Honey Pie and When I'm Sixty-Four
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Zig
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12 December 2010 - 12.10pm

I mentioned in a previous post that I get a kick out of Honey Pie because it always felt like a tribute to his dad's jazz band. I'm a sucker for catchy tunes anyway.

As for When I'm Sixty-Four; it is also very catchy and the backing harmonies are fantastic. It also has that old-time northern song feel to it like Maggie Mae. There's a song I wish they had done in it's entirety.

Obviously, songs like these sprang from tunes that influenced them when they were kids - particularly Paul. It would have been cool to get a glimpse of each of their record collections.

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12 December 2010 - 7.27pm

I really like both songs. As said before, the placement of When I'm 64 and Honey Pie on their albums makes the songs even better.

I can understand why some people might dislike them; I know a person who told me that Honey Pie was "old people music". Just because a song isn't "rock" or "pop" doesn't mean it's not a good song.

And Zig, I think there's a full version on the John Lennon Anthology, but it's not the Beatles version.

 

EDIT:- The JL Anthology Maggie Mae isn't the full version. It just has an extra verse. However, there is a "full" Beatles version combined with Fancy Me Chances.

Maggie Mae/Fancy Me Chances:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

John Lennon Anthology Maggie Mae:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....2dUuJEO_pc (Starts at :36)

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12 December 2010 - 8.20pm

Fabulous, Number Nine!

I noticed that John got a raise in pay. He went from "2 pound 10 a week" to "3 pound 10 a week" in the second video.

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12 December 2010 - 9.22pm

When I'm Sixty-Four is a good song, but even if I'm totally wrong, I can't help to relate it to Linda McCartney... And that makes me sad.mal-evans

 

I don't hate Honey Pie, but for me is too cheese cake blue-meanie

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12 December 2010 - 11.21pm

Honey Pie is actually a dirty song. Its in the first verse.

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12 December 2010 - 11.35pm

Dear Prudence said:

Honey Pie is actually a dirty song. Its in the first verse.


How so? a-hard-days-night-john-7

"We are all a little weird and life's a little weird, and when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours, we join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love." — Dr. Seuss

 

 

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12 December 2010 - 11.39pm

StarWisher said:

Dear Prudence said:

Honey Pie is actually a dirty song. Its in the first verse.


How so? a-hard-days-night-john-7

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12 December 2010 - 11.49pm

Dear Prudence said:

StarWisher said:

Dear Prudence said:

Honey Pie is actually a dirty song. Its in the first verse.


How so? a-hard-days-night-john-7
 

"She was a working girl" A working girl is a prostitute who works for drugs.
 

These things always go right over my head. 🙂

"We are all a little weird and life's a little weird, and when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours, we join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love." — Dr. Seuss

 

 

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12 December 2010 - 11.56pm

I wish they would go over mine.

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13 December 2010 - 10.39pm

I really dig the acoustic Anthology version of Honey Pie, it's pretty inventive that the song turned into such an elaborate one when the demo was so simple, but then again we could probably say that for most songs.

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13 December 2010 - 11.42pm

GniknuS said:

I really dig the acoustic Anthology version of Honey Pie, it's pretty inventive that the song turned into such an elaborate one when the demo was so simple, but then again we could probably say that for most songs.


...Like Strawberry Fields. The demo is so simple, but the song turned out to be spectacular.

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14 December 2010 - 12.15pm

Honey Pie is nice enough. I find it up and down. Some of the lyrics are neat- "I'm in love, but I'm lazy"- others, less so.

 

I'm not a great fan of "When I'm Sixty Four". I think it appears better than it is because of the tracks surrounding it. I don't rate "Within You, Without You" or "Lovely Rita" either, so relatively speaking it's much stronger. If it was between Strawberry Fields Forever and Penny Lane, it wouldn't seem nearly as strong.

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14 December 2010 - 3.26pm

I like when I'm Sixty-Four because the first memory I have of it is this one. Any song featuring the Beatles dancing (even in cartoon form) makes me smile. a-hard-days-night-paul-8 Besides the clarinet makes the song.

 

Honey Pie is ok.

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4 February 2011 - 9.31pm

Paul wrote When I'm 64 when he was 16 years old. It's music hall style that he and his dad loved, pure working class Liverpool.

Paul was very versatile, Honey Pie was also musical hall, something granny could sing along with...but remember paul also wrote Helter Skelter, Oh Darling, I'm Down and sung some of the hardest rockers in the Beatles. Paul is VERSATILE, he's good at many styles. Much of the beatles early stuff was very country (George loved Carl Perkins) - i've just seen a face is a country 2 step in 1/2 time, not 2/4.

 

Early beatles stuff is a mix of Country, RandB, British music hall, Jazz and POP. I am a musician and i am amazed at the chord structures of some of the early songs, things like If I Fell are very complex.

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4 February 2011 - 9.33pm

You cannot call when I am 64 Early Beatles, as Paul rearranged the tune before the Pepper sessions.

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4 February 2011 - 10.00pm

I love how When I'm 64 has clarinet in it. It really changes the sound and I really love the song, it sounds so happy! I am going to make an attempt to learn it, after all the competitions and stuff.

 

 

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4 February 2011 - 10.58pm

Nigel the good dog said:

I love how When I'm 64 has clarinet in it. It really changes the sound and I really love the song, it sounds so happy! I am going to make an attempt to learn it, after all the competitions and stuff.

 

*1+(1+1)*


You go to competition too?

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4 February 2011 - 11.41pm

What is competition in music?

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

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6 February 2011 - 1.38am

Oh, it is a thing at school. We have to perform for judges, we get rated, all that jazz.

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