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9 November 2016
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There's an "Alternate Magical Mystery Tour " bootleg that I own that has 6 versions of Flying .

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Which means that in addition to 95% of The Beatles music missing from YouTube, they're making lost media by banning songs like Revolution 1 Take 20 or the original Flying   

Only if you have a questionably loose definition of "lost media."

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So I finally heard two long versions of Flying . They seem to incorporate bits that I have heard on other bootlegs. The song bits are called "Mellotron Music" and they are numbered 1 through 5.  Did the Beatles themselves add these bits to Flying , or are these fan creations?

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I'm not sure if they are fan creations or not, but the Mellotron Music songs I wouldn't consider versions of Flying , but the ideas present in those songs were incorporated in the song. 

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10 January 2017
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Do you think that Flying is an instrumental, here's the poll:

Do you think that Flying is an instrumental

  • Yes(81% : 13 votes)
  • No(19% : 3 votes)
Total Voters: 16

For me, I personally think that it isn't, due to the fact that there are clearly vocals in the song, but some think otherwise.

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10 January 2017
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Yes, it is an instrumental because the voice is an instrument, and in this is used as an instrument rather than used to create an image by the use of lyrics.

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10 January 2017
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Would this song be an example of scat singing?

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I don't think so, @Starr Shine?.

There is a clearly worked out pattern, pre-agreed, to the voice contribution to Flying . Scat is an improvisation, generally done by a single singer, or if more than one singer, with the vocal being passed between them.

Flying  has all four Beatles singing exactly the same syllables in unison. It is a composed piece, rather than improvisation.

It probably has more in common with choral music.

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10 January 2017
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I don't think this is scat singing, as that I usually done a lot faster with multiple nonsensical words. Also, Ron Nasty, does this mean you also consider Black Sabbath's Supertzar and The Simpsons theme song instrumentals.

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Black Sabbath's Supertzar I would regard as choral music, @HMBeatlesfan.

The Simpsons Theme Song I don't think of as anything other than a TV theme tune, built to do the job it does. It was never written to stand apart from the visuals it was created to accompany, and so I think that makes it a different beast altogether.

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@HMBeatlesfan said
I don't think this is scat singing, as that I usually done a lot faster with multiple nonsensical words. Also, Ron Nasty, does this mean you also consider Black Sabbath's Supertzar and The Simpsons theme song instrumentals.  

So then do you consider Paul McCartney 's "Hey Hey", John Lennon 's "Beef Jerkey", and Wings's "Rockestra" not instrumentals?

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I can call songs like Flying partial instrumentals, but I believe that the presence of vocals deters it from being called a full instrumental, here's a list from Wikipedia determining borderline cases, with some tweaking to prevent flat out copying. If you'd like, here's the unedited article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental#Borderline_cases

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Some recordings which include brief examples of the human voice are typically considered partial instrumentals. Examples include songs with the following:

Brief vocal sections (as in "The Simpsons" and "Wipe Out")

Repeating the same few words (e.g., "Woo Hoo" and "Wild Honey Pie ")

Spoken dialogue (e.g., "To Live Is to Die" and several songs by William Shatner)

Choir aahs and other wordless vocals (e.g., "Flying " and "Supertzar")

Beat boxing, sometimes on B-sides of rap singles

Yodeling (e.g., "Hocus Pocus")

Whistling (e.g., "I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman")

Inclusion of field recordings which may or may not contain non-lyrical words. (e.g. Crowd cheering from a live performance of an instrumental song)

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HMBeatlesfan said

Some recordings which include brief examples of the human voice are typically considered partial instrumentals. 

Huh.  So Birdland by Weather Report would be an example.  Love that song.

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So I finally heard two long versions of Flying . They seem to incorporate bits that I have heard on other bootlegs. The song bits are called "Mellotron Music" and they are numbered 1 through 5.  Did the Beatles themselves add these bits to Flying , or are these fan creations?  

They aren't fan creations. 

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Who do you think plays the guitars on this song, George and Paul, just George, or someone else. For me, I am going with beatlesebooks claim that it's just George (although unlike him, I believe that he used his acoustic plugged in instead of the Strat the site claims he used, due to a claim by Walter Everett), although it is possible that Paul played a guitar part on the song.

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27 July 2017
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Great news, while i was looking through old posts i found this.

Ron Nasty said this, of which he never expected to be quoted in this thread to which i say, Ron Nasty said
One album that hasn't been mentioned in this thread is Booker T. & The M.G.'s (mostly) instrumental McLemore Avenue from April 1970.

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Medley: Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End/Here Comes The Sun/Come Together [15:48] / Something [4:09] / Medley: Because/You Never Give Me Your Money [7:26] / Medley: Sun King/Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came In Through The Bathroom Window/I Want You (She's So Heavy) [10:40]

I qualified it with "(mostly) instrumental". What vocals there are are in the first medley. The End segment in it ends with the "And in the end the love you take..." line, while they sing "come together" a few times at the end of Come Together. The rest is entirely instrumental.

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Booker T. Jones said of the album, released within eight-nine months of AR's release:

I was in California when I heard Abbey Road, and I thought it was incredibly courageous of The Beatles to drop their format and move out musically like they did. To push the limit like that and reinvent themselves when they had no need to do that. They were the top band in the world but they still reinvented themselves. The music was just incredible so I felt I needed to pay tribute to it.

One of the two great American house bands at the time (the other being Motown's Funk Brothers), the Stax studio was on East McLemore Avenue in Memphis, hence the album's title. I think it's quite funny that it works out that the title has the first two letters of Paul and John's surnames at the start. The irony of coincidence!

It's a fantastic reinterpretation of the songs they chose from AR, one of the truly great instrumental albums of Beatles covers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh64EZdF5p8

And this gave me the perfect label, Flying is a mostly instrumental song. It's a lot better than calling the song an instrumental because of those wordless vocals.

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human body is an instrument, anyway.

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hola!!! Soy Pablo de Argentina y quisiera saber ¿que instrumentos se tocan con el mellotrón en el segundo verso de Flying ?

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For anyone who is unable to read Spanish, myself included, Pablo's question above is 

Hello!!! I am Pablo from Argentina and would like to know what instruments are played with the mellotron in the second verse of Flying ?

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