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Little Piggy Dragonguy
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14 June 2013 - 7.52pm

HeyTrud said

To be honest I've never really understood the hate for Hold Me Tight. I mean, it's hardly the greatest song ever and obviously knocked off in a flash, but it's catchy and energetic enough that I wouldn't rate it much lower than many of their non-standout album tracks of the period.

I have to agree.  It's not a FAB song or anything...but it's catchy and I always find myself rocking to it! a-hard-days-night-george-10

 

Yeah, mmm, what's your deal with Hold Me Tight? That's the song that basically makes that whole album for me. It's like the happiest song ever. 

Fillers: Every Little Thing, It's Only Love, What Goes On, Words Of Love..

I don't know if I would call Wild Honey Pie filler, though, because it's not like they put that song on the album because they needed another song for the album. Isn't that what filler is?

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14 June 2013 - 8.47pm

Ok. The backing track doesnt know if its meant to be fast or slow throughout so changes whenever it flippin' well wants, John and George sound bored senseless with their backing vocals, and Paul is trying far too hard to energise a track that is going nowhere. Most Beatle tracks that were just there on an album to fill in a song gap have an energy that pounds along for 120 odd seconds or a hook - this one starts off at a pace then cant decide if its going too fast, slow or at the right speed throughout before throwing its arms up in surrender and giving up.

Everytime it comes on i think the backing track sounds good, i like the bouncy feel initially, i'll concentrate on that to get me through but after 20 seconds i want it off for the above reasons.

 

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14 June 2013 - 10.01pm

Listening to it again I have to agree that it doesn't know where it's going in places. The verse is fine, the "hold (hold) me tight (me tight)" bit is decent, and the "it's you-oo-oo" bit leads on from that, if somewhat tenuously - but then the "don't know, what it means to hold you tight" part just kind of takes it to somewhere meandering and the song seems to lose a little too much of its initial momentum.

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15 June 2013 - 3.02am

Gerell said

 

 

Her Majesty doesn't fill anything technically =P

Well, if "filler" has to come between songs, yeah.  But I take "filler" to be anything that's not a solid song on its own.  Her Majest at any rate does fill the space between the last song and the area on the LP that has no more grooves...blue-meanie

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15 June 2013 - 11.56am

I think of 'I'll Cry Instead' as a bit of a filler. Lyrics are quite boring and there's nothing about it that excites me, particularly. In fact, I often forget it even exists.

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15 June 2013 - 12.33pm

Billy Joel covered that song, so it must have interested him. 

Every Little Thing is pretty underrated imo.

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15 June 2013 - 1.48pm

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
Ah yes, one person's filler is another one's fave. What else is new here!?

 

I'm with you, Doctor Ronald. A neat idea for a thread, but I wish any song on the list would have been the best song I ever wrote. 

The only thing I would consider to be 'filler' would be "R9". I'm not knocking it - it grows on me a little more each time I hear it - but a sound collage has to be the definitive example of filler on a rock album.

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15 June 2013 - 4.40pm

The great thing about the Beatles is even their "filler" is usually pretty good, compared to other bands.

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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15 June 2013 - 5.30pm

I guess my definition of "filler" is more stringent.  I can't think of any song in the Beatles ouevre that is strictly speaking a filler (I was just being generous in my first post).

My example of a filler occurs first on Ram:  that little bit coming in after the end of Long Haired Lady -- of a fade-in of the whistling from Ram On, then that weird break with the electric piano lurching into a fast rhythmic beat with Paul scat-singing over it and quickly fading out (the melody would prefigure his later song Big Barn Bed on the later album Red Rose Speedway) -- before the beginning chords of Back Seat of My Car come in.

 

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15 June 2013 - 7.39pm

a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 I agree...even "Beatle filler" is damn good!  and Gerrell I too think "Every Little Thing" is under-rated.  The harmonies on that song are amazing a-hard-days-night-john-1

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15 June 2013 - 9.43pm

Funny Paper said
that weird break with the electric piano lurching into a fast rhythmic beat with Paul scat-singing over it and quickly fading out (the melody would prefigure his later song Big Barn Bed on the later album Red Rose Speedway

 

I heard RAM before Red Rose Speedway, and I LOVED that little part at the end of Ram On...  so I was pretty excited the first time I heard Big Barn Bed.  Red Rose Speedway is definitely my favourite Wings album.  heart

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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15 June 2013 - 10.42pm

LongHairedLady said

Funny Paper said
that weird break with the electric piano lurching into a fast rhythmic beat with Paul scat-singing over it and quickly fading out (the melody would prefigure his later song Big Barn Bed on the later album Red Rose Speedway

 

I heard RAM before Red Rose Speedway, and I LOVED that little part at the end of Ram On...  so I was pretty excited the first time I heard Big Barn Bed.  Red Rose Speedway is definitely my favourite Wings album.  heart

I like Big Barn Bed too -- but I wish Paul would do another song more in the style & spirit of that little Ram On snippet.  For BBB, he sort of went off in a different direction, more bluesy-rocksy, whereas the original snippet has a spritely folksy vibe to it.

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16 June 2013 - 7.47pm

Loony-Lucy said
Half of the B-side of Help! is made of songs that I consider fillers.

And I agree about Good Day Sunshine: Revolver is my favourite album, but if there's a filler, than it's this track (though it's quite good compared to others)

 

Sort of agree. The fact it's probably my least favourite on Revolver doesn't help either.

Nothing else besides the ones already mentioned jumps to mind. I would've said Doctor Robert since it's quite boring and has a ''filler feel'' to it, but it's definitely not a filler because of it's subject.

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16 June 2013 - 7.48pm

HeyTrud said
a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 I agree...even "Beatle filler" is damn good!  and Gerrell I too think "Every Little Thing" is under-rated.  The harmonies on that song are amazing a-hard-days-night-john-1

I also think Every Little Thing is underrated. I love the harmonies and the timpani. :)

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16 June 2013 - 7.50pm

Every Little Thing is one of my favourites from Beatles For Sale! It's adorable.

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25 June 2013 - 11.46pm

Pretty much any song sung by Ringo.a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

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26 June 2013 - 6.50pm

No.

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26 June 2013 - 9.15pm

Seems appropriate at this moment to put up the greatest Ringo song ever. And I cant argue its not filler.a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

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26 June 2013 - 9.21pm

Ugh What goes ona-hard-days-night-ringo-12

I actually think that's my least favourite song sung by Ringo. Not even my least favourite on Rubber Soul though.

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26 June 2013 - 9.40pm

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its brilliant. George's glorious guitar playing, John and Paul doing gorgeous harmonies, Ringo's doleful vocal, John's reference to Tell Me Why, the faint "In your mind. In your mind" repeats by Ritchie right at the end, the mono mix with the guitar missing as the song closes. I love love love it. Easily one of my fave Beatle songs.

 

Strange how tastes in music and songs differ.a-hard-days-night-ringo-7

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