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Von Bontee
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15 May 2013 - 6.23pm

I don't think the 8th notes have much to do with it - "I Feel Fine" is full of 16th notes, and that one's not particularly fast. IJSAF, to me, is established as fast because of the frequency with which Ringo hits that snare to emphasize the backbeat.

I kind of understand where you're coming from, Funny Paper, and you obviously know more theory than I do - I think we're just hearing different things. But it's not impossible for a song to feel both fast and slow simultaneously: Listen to "Lady Madonna", with the two separate drum performances from Ringo, for an example.

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15 May 2013 - 7.05pm

I listen both to how fast they sing and how fast Ringo hits the drums and first thing that comes to mind is I've Just Seen A Face. It's much faster than I'm Looking Through You. The fact that Ringo is tapping the matchbox a thousand times a minute in ILTY doesn't make the song overall sound faster to me.

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16 May 2013 - 10.11am

In another perspective, there is no "fastest" Beatle song, this is the case for me. I just don't know your case. My records are resting perfectly fine on the shelves [vertically if that bothers you] and they haven't even moved a bit. 

On a different perspective, yes with "Matchbox" it gives you an illusion that the song sounds faster. In this case of I Feel Fine, the backbeat resembling the one in What'd I say is also giving another illusion.

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16 May 2013 - 7.45pm

My point wasn't meant to center on 8th notes. The point is, which notes are going to be taken to be the main beat counters?  In "I've Just Seen A Face" it could be argued that the beats fall on the CAP words as follows --

I've Just Seen A Face

i CAN'T forGET the TIME or PLACE

where WE just MET...

 

But if you want to stress the beats in every word -- not every other word -- then the song will seem twice as fast.

 

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Von Bontee
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16 May 2013 - 8.46pm

To my ears, the phrasing of the words have little to do with it. The tempo is established by the drumbeats, and the song would sound equally as fast as an instrumental.

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
-- Paul McCartney

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18 May 2013 - 9.02pm

The fastest song is The Long And Winding Road, without a doubt. a-hard-days-night-george-10

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18 May 2013 - 9.19pm

The BPM (Beats per Minute) has to be the highest to be the fastest. "I Saw Her Standing There" - BPM: 160. "I've Just Seen A Face" - BPM: 120.

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Von Bontee
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18 May 2013 - 9.45pm

You can't place much faith in those figures - half of them are twice as high as they should be.

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18 May 2013 - 10.03pm

I tested them myself on http://www.beatsperminuteonline.com/ by tapping on each quarter note for a minute.

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21 May 2013 - 9.56am

My understanding of the history of the early recordings is that they were sped up a bit, especially the single releases. With that in mind, I would choose "Rain", as The Beatles played the song fast and then slowed it down. Was it a protest? Hmmm.

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Von Bontee
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21 May 2013 - 4.02pm

Is that correct about the early recordings? That's interesting if it's true - I've never heard that before. My understanding was that the only tape-speed manipulation they did prior to the experimental days of 1966 was in "A Hard Day's Night" and "In My Life".

As for "Rain", it wasn't slowed down THAT much! And they did it because they liked the wobbly effect the slowing-down had on the sound of Ringo's drums.

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
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Linde
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22 May 2013 - 3.15pm

Is the whole song slowed down though? Because some of those drumparts are already insanely fast right now, but if they're slowed down..

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Von Bontee
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22 May 2013 - 6.50pm

Well, once again, it's not slowed down that much, reallly! But yeah, the whole thing had to have been slowed down - otherwise they couldn't have maintained a consistent tempo.

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
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22 May 2013 - 7.24pm

The backing track of Rain was deliberately recorded fast, the vocals on the otherhand were recorded with the tape slowed down so they would be faster when played at the right speed.

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27 June 2013 - 1.09am

The songs that "feels" fast: "I'm Down", "I've Just Seen A Face", "Birthday", "Dizzy Miss Lizzy", "Long Tall Sally", "Back in the U.S.S.R.", "Slow Down" (ironically), "Bad Boy", "Roll Over Beethoven", "Rock And Roll Music", "Helter Skelter", "I Saw Her Standing There", "The End" (guitar solo section), "Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey" (partly), "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)" (to some degree)...

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2 July 2013 - 2.19am

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
Depending on how you define "fastest," I might throw in "Mr Moonlight." It's only a fraction of a second between the moment the song starts and the start of the next song on my iPod.

 

I don't even have it on mine.  blue-meanie  

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2 July 2013 - 2.24am

LongHairedLady said

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
Depending on how you define "fastest," I might throw in "Mr Moonlight." It's only a fraction of a second between the moment the song starts and the start of the next song on my iPod.

 

I don't even have it on mine.  blue-meanie  

But, if like-minded to Into the Sky with Diamonds, doesn't that just mean you don't have to hit skip?

 

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2 July 2013 - 2.34am

mja6758 said

LongHairedLady said

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
Depending on how you define "fastest," I might throw in "Mr Moonlight." It's only a fraction of a second between the moment the song starts and the start of the next song on my iPod.

 

I don't even have it on mine.  blue-meanie  

But, if like-minded to Into the Sky with Diamonds, doesn't that just mean you don't have to hit skip?

 

That's why I don't bother having it, because I would just skip it every time...  or am I missing your point here?  ahdn_paul_02

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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2 July 2013 - 2.43am

LongHairedLady said

mja6758 said

LongHairedLady said

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
Depending on how you define "fastest," I might throw in "Mr Moonlight." It's only a fraction of a second between the moment the song starts and the start of the next song on my iPod.

 

I don't even have it on mine.  blue-meanie  

But, if like-minded to Into the Sky with Diamonds, doesn't that just mean you don't have to hit skip?

 

That's why I don't bother having it, because I would just skip it every time...  or am I missing your point here?  ahdn_paul_02

Ah, no, I was missing your point! I read your blue-meanie as annoyance that you didn't even have Into the Sky's choice of hitting skip, rather than you having chosen to delete it to avoid having to hit skip!

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LongHairedLady
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2 July 2013 - 3.37am

Stupid Blue meanie confusing everyone!  blue-meaniea-hard-days-night-george-10

 

I did the same thing with "Temporary Secretary" on the second McCartney album.  I deleted it right out of my ITunes.  I can't think of a situation where I would ever have to listen to that again..

**shudder**  a-hard-days-night-paul-11

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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