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14 April 2013
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Was reading Joe's entry for Dizzy Miss Lizzy and was intrigued about it being renamed from the original 'Dizzy Miss Lizzie' (or 'Dizzy, Miss Lizzy) so went to wiki to see if it had more and part of its entry reads

The song was originally thought about by band manager Brian Epstein, and was later introduced to Ringo Starr , the band's drummer. He made sure that the band recorded it after loving its upbeat rhythm and interesting lyrics

however ive read before and Joe's entry also says The Beatles performed the song in their early days ("Dizzy Miss Lizzie had been a part of The Beatles' live repertoire since their earliest days").

So is wiki saying Brian heard the song later on (early '65?) then played the track to Ringo who suggested it to others who had forgotten it(which ive never heard in my life) or is it another bit of beatle hocum? Anyone heard or read anything to support wiki?

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15 April 2013
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I've never heard the Brian Epstein story before, I have always thought that it was from their early days.

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15 April 2013
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Yep, same as me a-hard-days-night-ringo-8

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I like this song except for one thing, George's guitar part. Why did George put absolutely no effort into the guitar part of this song, it's just a simple two note lick that's so simple, Lil' Wayne can do it, it makes me think that George didn't care at all about this song.

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16 June 2017
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It's the only cover song on the album, so in my opinion they only had 13 originals ready for the Help ! album.  They went to the vault of songs they know and knocked this one out for the album.  Nothing fancy, just run through it a couple times and finish the album.

I've posted before that this song does sound out of place on Help !.  It sounds like it would have better been served as a B-Side or on an EP.

 

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16 June 2017
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Act Naturally is also a cover.

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16 June 2017
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Dark Overlord said
I like this song except for one thing, George's guitar part. Why did George put absolutely no effort into the guitar part of this song, it's just a simple two note lick that's so simple, Lil' Wayne can do it, it makes me think that George didn't care at all about this song.  

George simply repeated the original riff thru most of the song. More bizarrely is he fumbles his way thru.

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16 June 2017
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Dark Overlord said
Act Naturally is also a cover.  

Well, duh... That's correct.  Dunno why I missed that one.

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26 June 2017
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I have also never heard the Brian story and I also just assumed that they had this song in their repertoire and recorded it to fill the album.

I've said it before but I don't mind this song and yes it may seem out of place on the Help ! ablum but I like the contrast between Yesterday and Dizzy Miss Lizzy but I am weird like that.

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27 June 2017
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No, that's not weird! I can appreciate that too; just wish they went with a better rocker than they did. Like "Bad Boy ", which remains my favorite of their Larry Williams covers.

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If I had a choice I would prefer Bad Boy over Dizzy Miss Lizzy . I forget how much I like their cover of Bad Boy and it would be still a good contrast from a ballad like Yesterday to a hard rocker like Bad Boy .

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