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Defining Canon
1 May 2020
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GIMH
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Okay stay with me on this, been bugging me for years. 

Beatles Canon is defined as the eleven proper LPs, plus yellow submarine and MMT. Then add all the Past Masters tracks and you have everything. 

The question I have is, if someone only has either stereo or mono of each album (obviously only stereo for the latter few) do they have the full canon? 

Okay in most cases it's just a different mix but I'm thinking examples like:

Please Please Me - stereo version is a different take and therefore if you buy or stream the album, that song is a different version to the single. No ostensible difference to the way we have two versions of Love Me Do but one of them is deemed different enough for Past Masters

Help ! - different vocal take on the mono album. Was the original single also that take? I have no idea but either way it's a different version of the song 

There's plenty of others but hey go. I know there are mono V stereo discussions on here elsewhere but really my question is from a Canon perspective why were variances in tracks like Let It Be important enough to separate and have the single version on Past Masters but ones like these, which IMO are more substantial, are not? 

1 May 2020
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Because both versions of Please Please Me and Help ! appeared on the album, one on the mono version and the other on the stereo version.

Also, what Apple considers canon is flawed. For example, the 2 German songs are considered canon despite not being released in the UK until 1978 and Magical Mystery Tour is considered canon but not Hey Jude despite both being the only 2 releases created for a foreign market that had to be manually approved by The Beatles and the latter being released in more countries.

Personally, i think canon is best defined as how a Brit would've most likely heard their music back in the 60's, which would've likely been in mono until ~1968 since stereo wasn't popular for a good chunk of their career and would've included their 11 main albums plus A Collection Of Beatles Oldies, Yellow Submarine , the 2 EPs containing new tracks (Long Tall Sally and Magical Mystery Tour ), and all their singles, as well as possibly Magical Mystery Tour and Hey Jude , since those albums were popular imports when they were first released.

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The Canon was set in 1987. Let's stick with it.

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It is a pity that they didn't add the MMT EP songs songs onto the Yellow Submarine album and then added the 1967 singles onto Past Masters 2 ... I really hate MMT being called an album, when it really isn't! Alternatively, the MMT album songs could have been added to a re-figured Past Masters 2?

2 May 2020
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I think what really made me think about is was because Help was a single too. Given all singles were released in mono I presume the mono mix is the original single one. Perhaps I have this wrong though. 

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The Original Mono mix is on the Brit single. Without looking it up I'm not sure if it appears on the American single. The American version of the Mono Help LP had a fold Down of the Stereo version. It's all kind of wonky. 

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I think what really made me think about is was because Help was a single too. Given all singles were released in mono I presume the mono mix is the original single one. Perhaps I have this wrong though.

 

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