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9 April 2014
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Annadog, you've changed your avatar again! To something delightfully absurd!

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vonbontee said

Matt Busby said

The one thing I think Dear Prudence could do without is the repeat of John talking in the background about Mia's sister "going insane."  I think one time would have been enough.

What is this about - is there something in the (multilayered) background of "Dear Prudence " which I've never heard??

Its in the demo John recorded back in May '68, it was an aside by John and dropped for the commercial version.

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Not only is Dear Prudence one of my favorite songs on the White Album , it's one of my all-time favorite Beatles songs, period. Just lovely.

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Just for fun, here's the results of the "White Album " poll on my "other" favourite website:

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/Threa.....9468#msg51

(Much, much "Dear Prudence " love from me, btw. Still one of my half-dozen White Album favourites.)

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meanmistermustard said

vonbontee said

Matt Busby said

The one thing I think Dear Prudence could do without is the repeat of John talking in the background about Mia's sister "going insane."  I think one time would have been enough.

What is this about - is there something in the (multilayered) background of "Dear Prudence " which I've never heard??

Its in the demo John recorded back in May '68, it was an aside by John and dropped for the commercial version.

<youtube link to demo version snipped>

@Joe, @meanmistermustard, @vonbontee, et al - I had never heard that demo version, yet I was familiar with the spoken verse.  I finally got around to checking the several copies of Dear Prudence on my hard drive and found it on the Mono box set.  Not having the stereo version (and not feeling like I needed it - until now), it's the version I hear the most and thus thought it was standard.  The liner notes talk about some other songs that differ from the stereo version, but makes no mention of Dear Prudence being different. 

There are at least 2 youtubes that claim to be the 2009 mono remaster, but neither match the version I have, which is copyrighted 2009 but gives all production credit to George Martin.  He quit the production business years earlier due to hearing problems as I'm sure you all know, yet it claims he remastered them to mono in 2009.  So I dunno.  It's not the same as the demo version, it's fully arranged and polished for release.  PM me if you want more info about the mono mix I have, or look up your mono box set version, if you have it.

[edit: maybe i have a really rare misprint - I wish!]

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May be a mash-up (a fan created remix).

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

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I learned the song recently on the guitar (just fooling around with Drop D and wanting a fingering exercise). You've just gotta love those melody lines and the steady drone. The bass part really stands out too, but then again, it's Paul being Paul. I thought it was going to be more challenging given the story behind the fingerpicking technique, but I find it much easier than Paul's "pick & strum" on most everything he did.

 

But yes, the song is lovely, even on solo guitar. It's a Beatles song I don't think most could name you, but most will recognize once you start playing, and even song along!

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meanmistermustard said
May be a mash-up (a fan created remix).

If you're talking about my copy of the m ono box set, I own an  official licensed copy and ripped it to my hard drive because it's easier to access.

[edit:  I thought I'd better make absolutely sure, because I regularly muck up my music folder.  So I got out the actual cd and listened.  Sure enough, it's not from the mono box set.  My apologies!  Now I'll go find out exactly where it belongs...]

[edit #2: I found it's proper location, good thing I keep the download files after uncompressing them.  It's on the Unplugged (bootleg, I guess) - I could have sworn it came with mono box set but it isn't in there - I don't listen to that all that much (I don't think - sometimes the car stereo just moves to the next folder and maybe I've listened to it a lot without realizing it).  Anyway, I've solved my riddle.  Sorry for doubting you guys...sometimes I feel so stupid here...I must remember to verify everything that's not an opinion before I say it! (j/k, I know we're all human)]

[edit #3: After careful comparison, I believe it is the demo version.  I guess this is the kind of confusion that happens when one acquires 10+Gb of stuff all from the same band, with duplicates and different versions of the songs, in a year a-hard-days-night-george-10]

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12StringKing said
I learned the song recently on the guitar (just fooling around with Drop D and wanting a fingering exercise). You've just gotta love those melody lines and the steady drone. The bass part really stands out too, but then again, it's Paul being Paul. I thought it was going to be more challenging given the story behind the fingerpicking technique, but I find it much easier than Paul's "pick & strum" on most everything he did.

 

But yes, the song is lovely, even on solo guitar. It's a Beatles song I don't think most could name you, but most will recognize once you start playing, and even song along!

I do agree the melody and chord progression is very pleasing to the ears. The scalar descent of the opening is great, and the rest of the song follows through. 

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I love how Dear Prudence grows louder and more intense from the beginning to the end.

When I hear these lyrics in While My Guitar Gently Weeps , I always think about Dear Prudence

I don't know why nobody told you
How to unfold your love
I don't know how someone controlled you
They bought and sold you

I don't know how you were diverted
You were perverted too
I don't know how you were inverted
No one alerted you

Can anyone else see the connection or is it just my tangled, tortured brain that it putting those together?

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Ahhh Girl said
I love how Dear Prudence grows louder and more intense from the beginning to the end.

When I hear these lyrics in While My Guitar Gently Weeps , I always think about Dear Prudence

I don't know why nobody told you
How to unfold your love
I don't know how someone controlled you
They bought and sold you

I don't know how you were diverted
You were perverted too
I don't know how you were inverted
No one alerted you

Can anyone else see the connection or is it just my tangled, tortured brain that it putting those together?

So, when you hear the line "You were perverted, too," that makes you think of Prudence, who wouldn't come out of her room to play. What do you suspect Dear Prudence was doing in her room by herself, to make such a connection?

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I love Dear Prudence , it is a very pleasant song. It also flows very nicely.

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Bungalow Bob said

Ahhh Girl said
I love how Dear Prudence grows louder and more intense from the beginning to the end.

When I hear these lyrics in While My Guitar Gently Weeps , I always think about Dear Prudence

I don't know why nobody told you
How to unfold your love
I don't know how someone controlled you
They bought and sold you

I don't know how you were diverted
You were perverted too
I don't know how you were inverted
No one alerted you

Can anyone else see the connection or is it just my tangled, tortured brain that it putting those together?

So, when you hear the line "You were perverted, too," that makes you think of Prudence, who wouldn't come out of her room to play. What do you suspect Dear Prudence was doing in her room by herself, to make such a connection?

As always, an interesting, thoughtful meditation upon Beatles lyrics by our very own Bungalow Bob.

However, in my warped mind (for those who know my history as a child and teen), the word perverted means that she wasn't told/alerted to the truth about the wonderful world beyond the confines of her room or home. There is so much out there to know. Narrowmindedness is so confining. The Beatles music is so mind-expanding and freeing.

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Matt Busby said

If you're talking about my copy of the m ono box set, I own an  official licensed copy and ripped it to my hard drive because it's easier to access.

[edit:  I thought I'd better make absolutely sure, because I regularly muck up my music folder.  So I got out the actual cd and listened.  Sure enough, it's not from the mono box set.  My apologies!  Now I'll go find out exactly where it belongs...]

[edit #2: I found it's proper location, good thing I keep the download files after uncompressing them.  It's on the Unplugged (bootleg, I guess) - I could have sworn it came with mono box set but it isn't in there - I don't listen to that all that much (I don't think - sometimes the car stereo just moves to the next folder and maybe I've listened to it a lot without realizing it).  Anyway, I've solved my riddle.  Sorry for doubting you guys...sometimes I feel so stupid here...I must remember to verify everything that's not an opinion before I say it! (j/k, I know we're all human)]

[edit #3: After careful comparison, I believe it is the demo version.  I guess this is the kind of confusion that happens when one acquires 10+Gb of stuff all from the same band, with duplicates and different versions of the songs, in a year a-hard-days-night-george-10]

Matt, that's the beauty of iTunes.  You can catalogue everything perfectly knowing what is what, and what goes where!  Then when you transfer it on to your iPod/iPhone, you've got a powerful tool of a music player.  No need for a USB, CD player, Turntable, Cassette or 8-Track in your car.... ;o)

Also great for plugging into your home stereo, or just headphones!!

Nice thing with the iPod/iPhone is you see the LP cover, so you know what your listening to.

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There are also a ton of great covers of Dear Prudence , Umphrey's McGee does a good cover as well as Jerry Garcia

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Totally love Johns finger-picking style on this song; he learned it from Donovan while they were in Rishikesh. Just shows how they were still taking influences from other people and making their own masterpieces from them. Also, I think roadie Mal Evans is singing in the chorus.

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Wiki lists that along with the three Beatles Mal, Jackie Lomax and Paul's cousin John McCartney also join in the backing vocals. Joe omits Jackie and John McCartney.

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The song was in the news due to Prudence Farrow's connection to Robert Durst.

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