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50yearslate said
That’s monstrous. a-hard-days-night-paul-3 I feel slightly sick. (for some reason that video made me dizzy)

  

Is there a reason why John’s eyes look Asian in this video or is he asleep?

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A random thought occurred to me the other day.

Does anybody know if Paul was sued because of this song. If he was, how was it settled? and if not, why not? 

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Why would Paul be sued? John wrote the song, and he was sued.

That resulted in him agreeing to recording more songs by the publisher, Morris Levy, which became the basis of his Rock ‘N’ Roll  album.

John always made it clear that he wrote the song, so nothing to be gained by suing the half of the credited writers that everybody knew didn’t write it.

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Ron Nasty said
Why would Paul be sued? John wrote the song, and he was sued.

That resulted in him agreeing to recording more songs by the publisher, Morris Levy, which became the basis of his Rock ‘N’ Roll  album.

John always made it clear that he wrote the song, so nothing to be gained by suing the half of the credited writers that everybody knew didn’t write it.

  

1. I know that.

2. I know that too.

3. But if you believe somebody has plagarised your song, would you not sue all the credited ‘writers’ regardless of who actually wrote it? Genuine question here. I think if anybody is willing to take credit for something they didn’t create, they should be willing to suffer any cosequences too.

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Hi @Ron Nasty thanks for your reply. However, I’ve found the answer I was looking for here:

https://www.quora.com/Why-was-…..rs?share=1

The original lawsuit over the song Come Together did not name Lennon or McCartney. In 1970 Big Seven Music (owned by Morris Levy) filed suit against the Beatles’ publisher, Northern Songs, for copyright infringement. The similarities between Come Together and You Can’t Catch Me, a song by Chuck Berry, were apparently strong enough to make a formidable case. (Man, I sure don’t hear it – a small amount of lyrical similarity and that’s it to my ear, but I’m not a musician.)

The decision to sue Northern Songs is a fairly typical way one would conduct a copyright infringement case. The publisher is the one pushing that purloined material out the door, and makes a good target for damages, presumably having the deep pockets to pay the damages.

So yes, Paul was excluded, but so was John. At the point of the initial suit in 1970, your question doesn’t really come into play. Any claims are against the publishers of the song, and that is Northern Songs, who at this time are publishing the joint work of Paul and John.

As you say, this was really John’s song, and as a result, when the settlement to the 1970 action was being worked out, John reportedly took responsibility and agreed to do the things needed to make amends. I believe the settlement was out of court, so there may not be official records, but apparently John agreed to record three other songs controlled by Big Seven. The theory being that including these songs on a future John Lennon album would generate some good revenue for Morris Levy.

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The live version from JL Anthology is amazing. Where the original 1969 version is chilled out, this one is belted out with high energy. It gives the song a completely different feel and one I could even prefer.

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Timothy said
The live version from JL Anthology is amazing. Where the original 1969 version is chilled out, this one is belted out with high energy. It gives the song a completely different feel and one I could even prefer.

  

One of the many fun tracks from that album.

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Hello,

 

I read a lot of times, the first words of “come together” are “shoot me!”.

I only understand something like “shmbmh…” 🙂

Is there any evidence before 1980, that John sang “shoot me” or is this a myth, created after John was shot?

thanx for information.

 

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It’s definitely “shoot me”

 

John sang “shoot me” in ‘Watching Rainbows’, an improvised song done during the January 1969 sessions as well and he could well have moved it over as it is very similar.

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Ringo is among over 100 drummers and percussionists who have joined forces to cover this for WhyHunger’s Drum Together.

Among others taking part are Alan White, Andrew Marshall, Brian Frasier-Moore, Chad Smith, Cherisse Osei, Cindy Blackman Santana, Dave Weckl, Dennis Chambers, Jim Keltner, Lil’ John Roberts, Jon Fishman, Jonathan Moffett, Kenny Aronoff, Liberty DeVitto, Matt Cameron, Max Weinberg, Nandi Bushell, Pedrito Martinez, Sarah Thawer, Simon Kirke, Steve Gadd, Stewart Copeland, Valerie Naranjo, Vinnie Colaiuta, and many more.

The full list of the performers involved can be found here.

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tiefenrausch2 said
Hello,

 

I read a lot of times, the first words of “come together” are “shoot me!”.

I only understand something like “shmbmh…” 🙂

Is there any evidence before 1980, that John sang “shoot me” or is this a myth, created after John was shot?

thanx for information.

 

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I belive the “shoot me” is referring to heroine, not a gun

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William Shears Campbell said

tiefenrausch2 said

Hello,

 

I read a lot of times, the first words of “come together” are “shoot me!”.

I only understand something like “shmbmh…” 🙂

Is there any evidence before 1980, that John sang “shoot me” or is this a myth, created after John was shot?

thanx for information.

 

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I belive the “shoot me” is referring to heroine, not a gun

  

I haven’t heard that before but I’ve always just taken it as having been taken from ‘Watching Rainbows’ (see above) and given it little thought.

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meanmistermustard said

William Shears Campbell said

tiefenrausch2 said

Hello,

 

I read a lot of times, the first words of “come together” are “shoot me!”.

I only understand something like “shmbmh…” 🙂

Is there any evidence before 1980, that John sang “shoot me” or is this a myth, created after John was shot?

thanx for information.

 

tr

  

I belive the “shoot me” is referring to heroine, not a gun

  

I haven’t heard that before but I’ve always just taken it as having been taken from ‘Watching Rainbows’ (see above) and given it little thought.

  

I read that, possibly on this forum, around the time the Abbey Road 50th box came out.  I’ve used that as my fun fact for this song for the last 2 years.  My buddy and I joke about that every time this song comes on.  Have the last 2 years of my life been a lie?

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William Shears Campbell said

tiefenrausch2 said

Hello,

 

I read a lot of times, the first words of “come together” are “shoot me!”.

I only understand something like “shmbmh…” 🙂

Is there any evidence before 1980, that John sang “shoot me” or is this a myth, created after John was shot?

thanx for information.

 

tr

  

I belive the “shoot me” is referring to heroine, not a gun

  

That does make sense. I myself only ever heard “shoo” or possibly “shoop” before I read what it was supposed to be. Even now if I listen real hard I’m still not certain that I’m hearing the “me” or if it’s just the power of suggestion.

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It’s definitely “shoot me” as can be heard in the isolated vocal.

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It’s definitely “shoot me” as can be heard in the isolated vocal.

  

I suspect the reason why we can’t hear it in the finished product is because they decided to submerge it so much it becomes barely (hardly) audible at all; a good decision, I think.

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