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20 May 2018
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Rap was around long before 1981's Rapture, @Billy Rhythm. Most often cited is Rapper's Delight by the Sugarhill Gang, released in September 1979, which reached #36 on the Billboard chart and #3 in the UK. Predating it by a few months, being released in March 1979, is King Tim III (Personality Jock) by The Fatback Band. Originally released as the b-side of You're My Candy Sweet (which reached #67 on the Billboard R&B chart). Flipping the single and promoting King Tim III saw it reach #26 on the R&B chart. Rapture was merely the first time this emerging African-American form was utilised by a mainstream white artist.

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Thanks for the history lesson there, but it doesn't change the fact that "'RAPture' IS "the first "modern rap" song"...  You could even go farther back to Aerosmith's 'Walk This Way' if we're talking about where it started...  Kinda like Pizza...  The Italians invented it but it was the Americans who revolutionized it...  Deborah Harry revolutionized rap...  they even took the name from the song...  Elvis didn't invent Rock 'N' Roll either but was the first to modernize it...  I know that that's a hard one for many to swallow but it was a woman who first delivered rap to the masses...:-)

21 May 2018
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Billy Rhythm said
Thanks for the history lesson there, but it doesn't change the fact that "'RAPture' IS "the first "modern rap" song"...  You could even go farther back to Aerosmith's 'Walk This Way' if we're talking about where it started...  Kinda like Pizza...  The Italians invented it but it was the Americans who revolutionized it...  Deborah Harry revolutionized rap...  they even took the name from the song...  Elvis didn't invent Rock 'N' Roll either but was the first to modernize it...  I know that that's a hard one for many to swallow but it was a woman who first delivered rap to the masses...:-)  

If a top 40 single in the US and a top 5 in the UK isn't delivering it to the masses I don't know what is. Seriously though, listen to Rapper's Delight, it is pretty clearly a modern rap song, from the sampling of a Chic bassline to the vocal style which was clearly quite influential on some of rap's greats like A Tribe Called Quest and The Notorious B.I.G. 

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@Billy Rhythm, if, as you suggest, rap got it's name from the 1981 song RAPture by Blondie, how were the Sugarhill Gang calling themselves rappers, as in performers of rap, in 1979, as evidenced by the 1979 song RAPper's Delight?

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QuarryMan said

If a top 40 single in the US and a top 5 in the UK isn't delivering it to the masses I don't know what is.

How about a Number One in America for multiple weeks...  BIG difference there...  Rap broke out of its "underground" status after Blondie's 'Rapture'...  Deborah Harry's free-stylin' and it hit Number One...  Music hasn't been the same (for better or worse) since...:-) 

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