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Beatles songs lacking a bass track
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The Beatles bassist
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29 June 2013 - 4.02am

I was laying in bed trying to sleep while listening to the Help! album, when my playlist came to "I've Just Seen A Face" I was thinking over the fact that it lacks a regular bass line, and since I couldn't sleep anyway I just got started with this topic trying to make a list covering all Beatles songs with no bass line put down by McCartney (or any other for that matter). Help me out if I forgot some tunes. ahdn_paul_01

- I've Just Seen A Face

- Yesterday

- Blackbird

- I Will

- Wild Honey Pie

- Can You Take Me Back

- Revolution #9

- Love You To

- Within You Without You

- The Inner Light

- Maggie Mae

- Dig It

- Her Majesty

- Two of Us

- Across The Universe

- For You Blue

- Julia

- Mother Nature's Son

- Eleanor Rigby

- Good Night

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Ron Nasty
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29 June 2013 - 4.18am

I'm not musically educated enough to know if what John plays on Dig It can be counted as a conventional bass part, but he is playing a six-string bass guitar.

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29 June 2013 - 9.46am

mja6758 said
I'm not musically educated enough to know if what John plays on Dig It can be counted as a conventional bass part, but he is playing a six-string bass guitar.

Hmm... I listened to it, I'm not sure now. I need to hear it more clearly, barely heard it.

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29 June 2013 - 10.51am

I don't know if it'll help you at all, but this is the long edit of Dig It - 8:26 (the full-length version is 12:25).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHGI99AEGcw

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29 June 2013 - 12.24pm

mja6758 said
I don't know if it'll help you at all, but this is the long edit of Dig It - 8:26 (the full-length version is 12:25).

I still don't manage to hear a proper bass line, but it's interesting - I never knew there was such a long version of this song. However, according to "the bible": The second version of Dig It featured Billy Preston on organ and George Martin on percussion, and Lennon playing a Fender VI six-string bass guitar.

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29 June 2013 - 12.28pm

I will doesn't feature a real bass track. Paul just sings the bass line

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29 June 2013 - 12.33pm

GeorgeTSimpson said
I will doesn't feature a real bass track. Paul just sings the bass line

I know, he's pretty amazing right? Paul invented the "vocal bass". I will add it to the list since I only want songs without real bass guitar.

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29 June 2013 - 8.31pm

Since they come from the same session as I Will, at which Paul wasn't playing a bass as GeorgeTSimpson said, Can You Take Me Back (a short segment of which is used as a link track between Cry Baby Cry and Revolution 9 on The White Album), Step Inside Love and Los Paranoias (from Anthology 3) also lack bass tracks.

As for Dig It, as I said I don't know if John's playing can be considered a conventional bass part, and only mentioned it because I knew that he was playing a bass guitar. It is a jam however, that grew out of an earlier jam they were doing at Twickenham called Get Off (the "Can you dig it?" line cropped up in several versions of it, as well as various "shout-outs" to personalities).

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29 June 2013 - 9.22pm

mja6758 said
Since they come from the same session as I Will, at which Paul wasn't playing a bass as GeorgeTSimpson said, Can You Take Me Back (a short segment of which is used as a link track between Cry Baby Cry and Revolution 9 on The White Album), Step Inside Love and Los Paranoias (from Anthology 3) also lack bass tracks.

I always loved that little piece (Can You Take Me Back) and I wish it was longer.  a-hard-days-night-paul-8

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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29 June 2013 - 9.43pm

mja6758 said
Since they come from the same session as I Will, at which Paul wasn't playing a bass as GeorgeTSimpson said, Can You Take Me Back (a short segment of which is used as a link track between Cry Baby Cry and Revolution 9 on The White Album), Step Inside Love and Los Paranoias (from Anthology 3) also lack bass tracks.

I didn't add "Can You Take Me Back" because I define it as a part of "Cry Baby Cry" anyway. I weren't considering the Anthology tracks, but thanks for writing.

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29 June 2013 - 10.08pm

Okay, sticking to what was released while they were together is a legitimate standpoint, and one I understand. However, though you may regard Can You Take Me Back as a part of Cry Baby Cry, it is not. It is the first hidden track. That is like not considering Her Majesty because it wasn't listed as part of the Abbey Road tracklisting. Except you include Her Majesty. Can You Take Me Back comes from an entirely different session to Cry Baby Cry, was not considered by them to be a part, it was just a little unlisted link. But 99% of people here recognise it for what it is, a separate song.

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30 June 2013 - 2.00pm

mja6758 said
Okay, sticking to what was released while they were together is a legitimate standpoint, and one I understand. However, though you may regard Can You Take Me Back as a part of Cry Baby Cry, it is not. It is the first hidden track. That is like not considering Her Majesty because it wasn't listed as part of the Abbey Road tracklisting. Except you include Her Majesty. Can You Take Me Back comes from an entirely different session to Cry Baby Cry, was not considered by them to be a part, it was just a little unlisted link. But 99% of people here recognise it for what it is, a separate song.

I guess you're right. I'll just add it to the list then.

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30 June 2013 - 3.46pm

I thought "Two Of Us" has a bass -- played by George.  It may not be an actual bass guitar per se, but I think it was what they call an acoustic "guitar bass", also amplified (?).

 

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30 June 2013 - 5.44pm

Funny Paper said
I thought "Two Of Us" has a bass -- played by George.  It may not be an actual bass guitar per se, but I think it was what they call an acoustic "guitar bass", also amplified (?).

 

On "Two of Us" (and "Maggie Mae", I think), George played a bass line with his 6-string electric guitar, not with an actual bass which made me include it in the list.

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30 June 2013 - 6.43pm

mja6758 said
Okay, sticking to what was released while they were together is a legitimate standpoint, and one I understand. However, though you may regard Can You Take Me Back as a part of Cry Baby Cry, it is not. It is the first hidden track. That is like not considering Her Majesty because it wasn't listed as part of the Abbey Road tracklisting. Except you include Her Majesty. Can You Take Me Back comes from an entirely different session to Cry Baby Cry, was not considered by them to be a part, it was just a little unlisted link. But 99% of people here recognise it for what it is, a separate song.

 

Oh I'm part of the other 1% then.

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30 June 2013 - 6.52pm

I have always regarded it as a separate song, more so since hearing the full-length version. It may be a jam, but it's a goodie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm5cdLI9Za4

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30 June 2013 - 8.51pm

mja6758 said
I have always regarded it as a separate song, more so since hearing the full-length version. It may be a jam, but it's a goodie.

 

Unlike "Her Majesty", "Can You Take Me Back" is on the same track as "Cry Baby Cry" whereas "Her Majesty" got her own track. Also the song article for "Cry Baby Cry" here on the Bible says: On the White Album, Cry Baby Cry was followed by Paul McCartney's Can You Take Me Back, an ad-libbed song recorded during the 16 September session session for I Will. Although unrelated to Cry Baby Cry, the songs are often classed as one.

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30 June 2013 - 9.31pm

All perfectly true, however many of those books that detail the Beatles discography, and/or give a song-by-song analysis of the discography, give Can You Take Me Back its own mention/entry. Joe made a decision as to whether to give it it's own entry, but I'm sure he would be the first to admit that many of those who have done a similar exercise of detailing the songs do treat it separately. As you quote him saying, "Although unrelated to Cry Baby Cry, the songs are often classed as one." That word "often" is important, since it indicates that they are also regularly treated as separate items. The thing to remember with Her Majesty is the original vinyl of Abbey Road. There it was not listed, it was as hidden as Sgt. Pepper's Inner Groove. I'm sure many people didn't find it for a while, as they lifted the needle at the end of The End to get back to track 1, side 1. How it has come to be treated in a digital age has nothing to do with how it was put on record to begin with. The seventeen-second silence also creates a rill for it on the original vinyl. There is no such gap for Can You Take Me Back, but that does not stop it being an "unrelated" link track.

 

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1 July 2013 - 2.42am

Ah, nice to read this discussion between mja and Beatles bassist -- makes me feel like the Beatles Bible is also for musicologists!

 

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mja6758 said
All perfectly true, however many of those books that detail the Beatles discography, and/or give a song-by-song analysis of the discography, give Can You Take Me Back its own mention/entry. Joe made a decision as to whether to give it it's own entry, but I'm sure he would be the first to admit that many of those who have done a similar exercise of detailing the songs do treat it separately. As you quote him saying, "Although unrelated to Cry Baby Cry, the songs are often classed as one." That word "often" is important, since it indicates that they are also regularly treated as separate items. The thing to remember with Her Majesty is the original vinyl of Abbey Road. There it was not listed, it was as hidden as Sgt. Pepper's Inner Groove. I'm sure many people didn't find it for a while, as they lifted the needle at the end of The End to get back to track 1, side 1. How it has come to be treated in a digital age has nothing to do with how it was put on record to begin with. The seventeen-second silence also creates a rill for it on the original vinyl. There is no such gap for Can You Take Me Back, but that does not stop it being an "unrelated" link track.

 

Well, I've never seen it being seperated otherwise. I won't bother to add the inner grove to the list. So you indicate that "Her Majesty" was on the same track as "The End" on the original vinyl?

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