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Baby You're A Rich Man
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27 January 2012
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Was reading Wikipedias article on Brian Jones and read that he "played oboe on the Beatles' "Baby You're A Rich Man"' which was a surprise. So looked on wiki's entry for Baby You're A Rich Man as well as Beatles Bible's to see if this was true and there is nothing on either. There is also no mention of this in the books 'Revolution In The Head' or 'The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions' (tho Mick Jagger is noted is noted as attending the sessions), there is also not even a mention of an oboe being on the record.

 

Does anyone know anything about this? Is it complete nonsense or was he there but his contribution omitted from the song, but then why mention Mick Jagger's attendence but not Brian Jones's?

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27 January 2012
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I have a recollection of Brian Jones being on some Beatle recording, but I thought it might have been "You Know My Name"

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27 January 2012
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Yeah, Brian played the saxophone on You Know My Name (Look Up The Number).

 

Maybe the line about Brian playing on BYARM is to help spot when folk go to wikipedia and duplicate the material without checking their sources.

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27 January 2012
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The website Songfacts.com  mentions it, too. But one site could have copied erroneous info from the other. For my money, I would rather believe the more reliable resources you cited in your fist post.

I love how loud the bass is in this song, BTW. 

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Brian Jones did play on "You Know My Name", saxophone to be exact, which was his first instrument before playing guitar. He was not on BYARM. Many people confuse the clavioline for an oboe, but they aren't even close. Somehow the idea that Brian played sax on one and oboe on the other has become a point of misunderstanding in more recent years.

As for Jagger, according to a 1993 interview, he confirmed that he did join in at the end.

You may know that the worldwide broadcast of "All You Need Is Love " took place a few days prior to the BYARM session. Jagger was there, too. So maybe he was invited to stop by during the BYARM session. Shortly thereafter, John and Paul stopped by and did backing vocals for the Stone's "We Love You".

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TomMo said

You may know that the worldwide broadcast of "All You Need Is Love " took place a few days prior to the BYARM session. Jagger was there, too. So maybe he was invited to stop by during the BYARM session. Shortly thereafter, John and Paul stopped by and did backing vocals for the Stone's "We Love You".

Actually, All You Need Is Love was done after the recording of Baby You're A Rich Man (11 May) and We Love You (12 June). The day of the broadcast was 25 June. Check it on the history section of this site.
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Funny how all this collaboration (including Jones' "You Know My Name" saxophone solo) occurred in '67, the same year the Stones & Beatles gave each other shout-outs on their album covers:

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Can anyone hear Jagger's vocals on this track? Haven't noticed them myself.

Either way, I think it's a great track.

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I'm fairly sure that's just an urban myth...

Oh, by the way, this post was made by The Hole Got Fixed!

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Not really, Lewisohn reported that one of the tape boxes had "+ Mick Jagger" written on it, opening up the possibility that Mick joined in the backing vocal/chorus chant.

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JW OBoogie said
Can anyone hear Jagger's vocals on this track? Haven't noticed them myself.

Either way, I think it's a great track.

  

Nope. Bowie is not on this track. While recording he was stuck in a big brown bag inside a zoo.

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And if you enhance the audio of the 1987 CD version, you can just barely hear the faint clapping of what is said to be Rod... Stewart that is.  This is cool because he wouldn't have a hit record for another 7 years.

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Is that Ghandi doing the descant?

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