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A day in the life - Paul or John?
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Zhack
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8 February 2013 - 5.16pm

 

mja6758 said 

Jolm VV Lemon said 
Oh man this is almost certainly Paul. The reason for the confusion is we hardly ever hear Paul at this range. Check out the inflections towards the end of the first E note, that almost jazzy waver he does that's virtually signature to his vocal style. It even sounds artificially stretched as the vocal fades and the horns cadence. Also the hard edge we hear in John's voice is totally absent. This is Paul; trust me folks--I'm good at this.

Oh, please, don't go there... Have you read this thread? Arguing it's definitely Paul is not the best way to say hello! This question has had more heated debate than any other on the forum.

Lol, I'm not worried about all that, I'm just saying it sounds borderline obvious (and not to insult anyone's analytic ear) that it's Paul. Even in the full mix it sounds like him, but even more so in the vocals-only track. You can even hear John's signature vocal texture in some of the BACKGROUND vocal play on that track. We expect it to sound like John (I always assumed it was!), so it will and does to most, understandably. I'd even go so far as it sounds like Paul is IMITATING John's sound, and very well (which would fit what we know about Paul, if you think about it).

The Emerick quote... convincing, sure. But as we know, history gets edited for various reasons: pride, human error, conspiracy (hey, it happens), etc. What if Geoff Emerick had a heated, perhaps extended, argument on the very subject with someone and thus had his pride entangled? Does that sound familiar? Is that at all unlikely considering his work? For all we know (and does this sound entirely unlike Paul?) the part actually was originally John, but Paul could have gone back and re-done it himself for whatever reason--perhaps solely to baffle fans half a century on, lol. Not that it's likely but my point is that there are always possibilities. However: The recording is a primary source; music by the Beatles directly into our ears and minds--and to my extremely analytical ear this sounds unmistakably like Paul McCartney. I would wager a hell of a lot on it. As a matter of fact, if Paul went on record today that John Lennon had sung the vocal interlude from "A Day In The Life" I would not believe him. Sounds crazy but he's human too, albeit a very talented one. I read an interview with him not long ago in which he commented on the fallibility of history, noting that in viewing the first few minutes of a Beatles documentary he was able to count several errors, right off the bat. The recordings, however, do not lie.

By the way I found this thread doing a Google search on the subject, haha. It's a high hit. There's actually a video on YouTube which claims that Paul sang the entire thing which threw me for a loop. Hence the search.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....c0qryApygE

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Long John Silver
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9 February 2013 - 4.07pm

Paulsbass, is that you?

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Linde
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10 February 2013 - 7.48pm

Pff what are you dumbasses talking about? It's definitely Yoko.

 

Nah, it has always sounded like John to me and I'm pretty sure it is. Don't really get why people would think it's Paul. Also don't get why some people make such a fuss out of it.

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10 February 2013 - 11.20pm

Linde said
Nah, it has always sounded like John to me and I'm pretty sure it is. Don't really get why people would think it's Paul. Also don't get why some people make such a fuss out of it.

I agree.

 

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11 February 2013 - 1.23pm

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11 February 2013 - 7.32pm

Paulsbass, aside from the trollish Mr. Big, nobody was attacking you for your opinion (which I happened to share, if I recall correctly), but rather for the way in which you refused to allow anyone else's opinion equal time! It is not obvious that Paul is doing it, otherwise this thread wouldn't be 16 pages long. And is not as simple and clear-cut as saying "2+2=5, obviously" - it's more like saying 2+2.99=4.99, where everybody else is hearing 5. As for the vicious attacks "mostly against you", well, in your last post you suggested that everybody who disagrees with you is insane! So take that into consideration, too.

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vonbontee
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11 February 2013 - 9.39pm

OK, I'm sorry I misunderstood your "sane" comment.

Mr. Big certainly was irritating, wasn't he? :) No argument about that!

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11 February 2013 - 9.39pm

Long John Silver's video clip has a lot of interesting information, but unfortunately does not fully resolve the question of this thread.  There is, however, one frame of text in that video which implies that Paul "dropped" in his entire middle section and that it had to be coordinated just right in order to end before John's "Ahhhhs".  No citations are offered to prove this is so, alas.

 

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12 February 2013 - 1.28am

I notice he quotes Emerick a lot in his videos, is there any mention about this in Emerick's book?

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12 February 2013 - 11.22am

This thread is still alive? Wow. Anyway, I'm kind of starting to hear Paul in the "ahhs", but I wouldn't be overly surprised if it's John like I thought in the beginning but I think it's really weird, anyway, the ghost voices in the back. Yes, they do sound like John. But why on earth would they record this "ahhh" by Paul, and then overdub these faint John screams, only to make them drowned in the final mix?

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Linde
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14 February 2013 - 2.40pm

Those ahhhs are by John and those faint ooohhs in the background are by Paul imo.

And nahh, I stopped reading this topic after 3 pages or so, because people kept coming up with the same ''arguments''

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Long John Silver
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14 February 2013 - 7.15pm

Linde said
And nahh, I stopped reading this topic after 3 pages or so

Wise decision :) .

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3 March 2013 - 2.00pm

paulsbass, in case you see this, it's good to have you back (albeit briefly). Do drop by again. Don't let an internet argument put you off - nothing is real.

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8 September 2013 - 4.29am

Haha - can't help myself, since folks had to sidetrack my 'Y Not' necro to continue this argument, I had to pop in here to give my 2-cents worth.

My son and I have been listening and it sounds like John to us.

I'm not going to state categorically it IS John since we don't have the audacity to suggest that we would disbelieve Paul even if he said it was John; this is, in spite of what some of you have been trying to claim, a matter of interpretation.

Apologies Joe, I note that you were bored with this one around page 3 :)

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8 September 2013 - 4.39am

Please, this thread is an unhappy one. Leave it alone. Unless Joe decides to disagree, I have locked this topic.

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Joe
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9 September 2013 - 11.49am

No, let's leave it open. Otherwise people might start duplicate threads and I'd lose the will to live.

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10 September 2013 - 6.00am

I have nothing to say about the debate, it is better to leave that matter to those experts since I am not really good in knowing john and paul's range of voice. Either Paul or john sang that "ahhh's and wo's. I just loved to hear them singing. And more importantly, it doesn't matter if john was trying to copy the tone of voice of paul. Even if it is hard for john to get that sound's ahhh's like paul, still it is sounds really good.

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10 September 2013 - 6.24am

Lovely response, beatlesfansunite, and welcome to the forum. If you would like to introduce yourself, there is a thread for that in "All Together Now". We are a pretty good bunch overall. Welcome to the ride!

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11 September 2013 - 3.26am

I never really thought about who it was, I've always assumed it was John, but then it started sounding like Paul, and now it's like half the time it sounds like Paul and the other half it sounds like John. And I don't think this is an unhappy thread, I think it's one of the happiest in this whole forum. It just shows how passionate some people are about The Beatles. Beautiful.

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HeyTrud
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11 September 2013 - 4.57pm

For months I've been wary about this topic!! HA!  ahdn_paul_02

Until I joined Beatles Bible, I ALWAYS assumed the "ahhhh's" were John.  Never thought it was anyone but him.  Since coming here...and reading all this and then listening again and again...I can see where it does sound somewhat like Paul too.  With all the overdubbing, looping, etc. they did, it could be hard to know?

But, for the record...I am going back to my original analysis and saying it's John!! a-hard-days-night-john-1

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