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A Day In The Life - Na Na-Na-Na
9 July 2012
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Here's a question for you song sleuths. It's been nagging me for years:

 

"... and I went into a dream  Na   na-na-na, na na na     na-na-na" sing the Beatles.

 

Deep Purple in their song "Hush" sing the exact same na   na-na-na, na na na     na-na-na     but much faster.

Their song came out within a year or so of ADITL.

Looks like Deep Purple were inspired by the Beatles, right?

Not really.

"Hush" was a cover of Joe Souther's song of the same name. [Joe Souther coincidentally had written a song called "The Purple People Eater Meets the Witch Doctor (according to Wiki)]

The original song already has na   na-na-na, na na na     na-na-na  at the same pace as Deep Purple's.

So when did Joe Souther's version come out, and were Lennon/McCartney perhaps inspired by this?

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First off, it's "Ahh" not "na", but whatever.
As far as I see, was written for Billy Joe Royal, whose version came out in 1967, and peaked on the charts in October - at 58. A Day In The Life was finished recording by early Febuary. Looks like a coincedence.

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10 July 2012
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I too noticed that similarity when I learned ADITL on the piano. The more interesting question: Who sings the ahhhs? John or Paul?

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Trevor Kraus said
I too noticed that similarity when I learned ADITL on the piano. The more interesting question: Who sings the ahhhs? John or Paul?

Best not to go there. There have been many many many heated discussions on this site (and others) about the "ahhhs" with no conclusion in sight, just endless disagreements/discussions.

If you'd like to read 9 pages of them then here's a nice thread, if you'd like an overview of how the discussions went then here (just scroll down a few posts) and if thats not enough then theres the search option. Plus there is the comments section for the song A Day In The Life . If you'd like to hear the ahhs isolated to decide for yourself then here.

 

Enjoy. And welcome.

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10 July 2012
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It's both of them together, with John's voice higher in the mix. Paul's is easier to hear towards the latter part of the "aah"s, I can hear his smoothness and ease on the higher notes although John is still more prominent. Why else would there be debate? It's like the question of who sang "she loves you" at the end of All You Need Is Love ; people argued about it because they could hear their favourite singer and wanted to prove it was them. And the reason it was difficult to tell was because BOTH John and Paul sang it. If it was just John, or just Paul, I doubt there'd be argument because it would be easy to discern.

Anyway, sorry for opening this can of worms again but I felt compelled to express my opinion today for some reason or another.

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10 July 2012
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Actually, the "Hush" na-na-na similarity was also discussed before already - not on the forums, but on the main "A Day In The Life " page, with the general consensus being that it was indeed probably a coincidence.

(And incidentally, it's Joe SOUTH, not Souther!)

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10 July 2012
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meanmistermustard said

Trevor Kraus said
I too noticed that similarity when I learned ADITL on the piano. The more interesting question: Who sings the ahhhs? John or Paul?

Best not to go there. There have been many many many heated discussions on this site (and others) about the "ahhhs" with no conclusion in sight, just endless disagreements/discussions.

If you'd like to read 9 pages of them then here's a nice thread, if you'd like an overview of how the discussions went then here (just scroll down a few posts) and if thats not enough then theres the search option. Plus there is the comments section for the song A Day In The Life . If you'd like to hear the ahhs isolated to decide for yourself then here.

 

Enjoy. And welcome.

Haha thank you for all that. I'm very familiar with the debate, having read pages upon pages of discussion about it on other forums, and I still can't make up my mind. And I don't think I ever will. And I've come to accept that as a tribute to the greatness of the song.

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R.I.P. Joe South... :(

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
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Hadn't seen that.
Good pickup!
Joe South made a significant albeit obscure contribution to Beatles' lore - and to this Forum!
Without his "Hush" there'd have been (perhaps?) no ah's to discuss!

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Also says here that the lads apparently performed a Lennon-led version of his big hit "Games People Play" during one of the "I Want You..." recording sessions!

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I think it proabably isn't a coincidence: or at least, there doesn't seem to be any reason to think it would have to have been a coincidence, and it seems it would have been a pretty big coincidence. I think the most likely explanation is that Joe South heard the 'ah' melisma in ADITL, realised that there was probably at least one more hit for someone in such a powerful hook, and adapted it into something with quite a different feel in his own song. Not too far different from some of the Beatles' own borrowings, of course.

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Joe South had two more connections to Beatles' lore: he was featured on the Apple-released soundtrack to the 1971 Italian movie "Come Together " and, also, Allen Klein was his manager too (Klein, in fact, once said: that South was the most all-round complete musician of all the clients he'd ever had).

FWIW: the "ahhs" in A Day In The Life , to me, always had an Imagine -esque type vibe to them (with that same, nasally, point-of-breaking choir-boy effervescence of John reaching).

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