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Sgt Pepper rejected running order?
12 December 2017
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QuarryMan said

not a bad running order actually, but it takes away some of my favourite transitions between songs. 

My perfect order would be 

1. Sgt Pepper

2. With A Little

3. Lucy

4. Getting Better

5. She’s Leaving

6. Mr Kite!

7. All You Need

8. Within You

9. Hello Goodbye

10. When I’m

11. Reprise

12. A Day  

I never understand fantasy tracklistings that include songs written after the album was completed and released. To have that tracklisting the album would have needed to be delayed until the end of November 1967, and to break their general rule that – apart from soundtracks – you don’t include already released singles on albums.

All You Need Is Love  and Hello, Goodbye  just aren’t Pepper songs to me. They’re post-Pepper, and clearly so.

It would be like including From Me To You  and She Loves You  on the PPM  album!

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13 December 2017
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Ron Nasty said

I never understand fantasy tracklistings that include songs written after the album was completed and released. To have that tracklisting the album would have needed to be delayed until the end of November 1967, and to break their general rule that – apart from soundtracks – you don’t include already released singles on albums.

All You Need Is Love  and Hello, Goodbye  just aren’t Pepper songs to me. They’re post-Pepper, and clearly so.

It would be like including From Me To You  and She Loves You  on the PPM  album!  

Well since this is all hypothetical (we’re obviously never going to be able to change the Pepper running order) I don’t think it’s a stretch to include songs that were recorded in the few months afterwards. In this hypothetical world where we can do that, then AYNIL and HG could easily have been written before Pepper, because neither of them draw on specific experiences that occurred after the release. You could say that AYNIl was written especially for the Our World broadcast, but to me it sounds like it could have been written at any point in 1967, given the social mood of the time. 

I don’t see what’s not Pepper-ish about AYNIL though. It’s quintessential Pepper to me – the orchestra, the optimistic lyrics etc, and it would have been perfect to open side 2. Whilst WYWY is a great song, it’s far too slow and quiet for a side opener. Hello Goodbye is included as it perks up side 2 which has a tendency to drag on the original.

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I've sat there on the barstool and I've looked him in the face.
He seemed a little haggard, but it did not slow him down,
he was humming to the neon of the universal sound. 

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Was listening to ‘Where It’s At’, the Pepper special broadcast on the 20th May 1967, and in the intro to ‘Fixing A Hole ‘ Kenny Everett introduces it with the words “On now to track three on the album, Paul McCartney by himself…’. Ignoring the Paul bit, was Kenny announcing it as track three an error or did he see/know of a rejected alternate line-up to the alternate line which was rejected before the line-up we all know about was settled on (the rejected running order widely reported now has ‘Mr Kite’ as the third track). 

The interviews Kenny did for the special were recorded on the 19th May so did he have earlier inside knowledge before then as, by the time of recording the track listing was settled – he was certainly in with the group, for one Ringo says they saw each other in America in 1966.

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