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Sgt Pepper rejected running order?
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McLennonSon
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23 November 2011 - 7.25am

While I was looking through the Complete recording session notes (for fun) by Mark Lewisohn, I discovered a different running order? Well I tried a magniefier and it said:

  Side One:

    1. Sgt Pepper

    2. A Little Help

    3. Mr. Kite

    4. Fixing A Hole

    5. Lucy In The Sky

    6. Getting Better

    7. She's Leaving Home

  Side Two:

    1. Within You, Without You (yes it said with a comma)

    2. When I'm Sixty-Four

    3. Lovely Rita

    4. Good Morning

    5. Sgt Pepper (Reprise)

    6. A Day In The Life

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23 November 2011 - 12.25pm

Being slightly partial to "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds," I'd say their final choice was the right one!

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23 November 2011 - 4.00pm

Interesting...I can imagine "She's Leaving Home" as a side-ender - it's got that air of finality ("Bye-bye..."), but that's the only other Side One track I'd want as a closer. Aside from that, I don't like that original sequence at all; they did make the right choice in changing it.

(An acceptable alternative: seeing "Mr. Kite" and "She's Leaving Home" switch places. "Mr. Kite" is still the better closer, but that sequence would eliminate the three-Paul-songs-in-a-row problem - which isn't really a problem at all, it just nags at my neurotic need for symmetry)

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24 November 2011 - 8.53pm

Well, i like in away the official running order but with the exception of Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds which i would prefer to be in the B- side of the album and change position with "For The benefit Of Mr. Kite"apple01

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24 November 2011 - 9.22pm

Not sure it would run as well with the rejected running order. As a show Mr Kite works far better bringing down the curtain on act 1. You can see the horses and acrobats leaping around the stage and after that the audience would need a break to recover their breath and marvel at the sights they had just seen.

 

The only other rejected running order is Abbey Road where originally side 1 was side 2 and vice vera. I Want You was the album closer not The End (which would have closed side 1 - strangely). Not sure if Her Majesty was still in the medley or had been cut out and placed after The End tho.

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11 June 2014 - 9.51pm

a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 I Want You would've been a good album closer, but Abbey Road is perfect as is and it's a good closer to side one.

Thinking about it, the beginning of With A Little Help would go really well into Being For The Benefit, so that'd be kind of nice, but it's a good song as a closer. The last few notes of She's Leaving Home would end a side pretty well. I still like the original better, but I really like this running order.

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12 June 2014 - 2.09pm

Mr. Kite said
a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 I Want You would've been a good album closer, but Abbey Road is perfect as is and it's a good closer to side one.

Thinking about it, the beginning of With A Little Help would go really well into Being For The Benefit, so that'd be kind of nice, but it's a good song as a closer. The last few notes of She's Leaving Home would end a side pretty well. I still like the original better, but I really like this running order.

Yeah, maybe With A Little Help would go well into your song (Mr. Kite), and I like She's Leaving Home, other than that, LEAVE IT!!!

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15 September 2015 - 6.31am

I listened to Sgt Pepper the other day and started thinking about the running order on side two. As we all know, Good Morning Good Morning segues into Sgt Pepper (Reprise), which segues into A Day In The Life.

Sgt Pepper (Reprise) was Neil Aspinall's idea, and was the last new song to be recorded for the album, on 1 April 1967. The final recording session was on 3 April (overdubs for Within You Without You). After that there was a lot of mixing, and on 7 April the crossfades were made for Sgt Pepper into With A Little Help From My Friends, and Sgt Pepper (Reprise) into A Day In The Life. TL;DR: the reprise was a very late addition to the album.

We can assume that A Day In The Life was always intended to be the closing song on Sgt Pepper. Let's also assume that Neil came up with the idea of Sgt Pepper (Reprise) shortly before it was written and recorded, sometime in late March. Now imagine how the album would have ended without the reprise of the title track. What were they planning before then?

Good Morning Good Morning ends with the animals sound effects, culminating in the sound of a hunt, and farmyard ducks and geese. Were they intending to crossfade this into A Day In The Life, or would there have been a natural break between the songs? Could there even have been a different running order for side two?

Listening to them back-to-back, I think they'd have let Good Morning fade out, rather than merging the galloping horses with the opening guitar of ADITL. Here are the songs, including A Day In The Life without the crossfade:

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15 September 2015 - 7.01pm

I think you're right..........The cacophony at the end of GMGM..........would have contrasted dramatically with the simple acoustic.......and John's eerie almost speaking, almost singing voice. Though whether that actually was their intention I'm not sure, I doubt Paul would have wanted two mainly John songs hogging the limelight at the end.......

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3 February 2016 - 10.41am

While looking at my amazon home page, I noticed an alternate Sgt. Pepper in my "suggested items".  So I searched google for "alternate Sgt. Pepper" and found a track listing.

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I burned a CD (including "Love In The Open Air" but excluding "Everywhere It's Christmas")  I have to say, not too shabby.  It has a really good flow.

1. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
2. With A Little Help From My Friends
3. Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite!
4. Only A Northern Song
5. Fixing A Hole
6. Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
7. Getting Better
8. She's Leaving Home
9. Strawberry Fields Forever
10. Penny Lane
11. Within You Without You
12 .When I'm Sixty-Four
13. Lovely Rita
14. Good Morning, Good Morning
15. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (reprise)
16. A Day In The Life
17. Love In The Open Air
18. All You Need Is Love
19. It's All Too Much

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4 February 2016 - 11.39am

I had that very bootleg and there were multiple versions of some of the songs. It was a decent bootleg.

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10 February 2016 - 7.06am

Is that the one with the hilarious breakdown "announcement" on CD1? It's a strange collection that one. That's where I first came across Love In The Open Air.

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10 February 2016 - 12.24pm

ewe2 said
Is that the one with the hilarious breakdown "announcement" on CD1? It's a strange collection that one. That's where I first came across Love In The Open Air.

Can't remember @ewe2 tho their 'Alternate Submarine Tour' was a very odd collection of tracks too so more than likely.

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10 February 2016 - 12.42pm

Joe said
I listened to Sgt Pepper the other day and started thinking about the running order on side two. As we all know, Good Morning Good Morning segues into Sgt Pepper (Reprise), which segues into A Day In The Life.

Sgt Pepper (Reprise) was Neil Aspinall's idea, and was the last new song to be recorded for the album, on 1 April 1967.

I always thought the Reprise should have ended the LP, but A Day In The Life is the better choice, so maybe Reprise should have ended side 1. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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