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Ringo and the Beatles
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what was Ringo’s individual relationships with the other three Beatles?

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Very good. The only two heated incidents i can remember are when Ringo went to see Paul in 1970 to get a compromise regarding the Let It Be /McCartney album release dates which resulted in Paul threatening him, and when George sued Ringo over his recording of the song I’ll Still Love (aka When Every Song Is Sung) on the 1976 LP Ringo’s Rotogravure; it was settled out of court (there may be others).

John, Paul and George were all more than willing to help Ringo out with his albums (donating songs as well helping record them) and all of them had Ringo play drums on various albums.

And then you have Early 1970, a fantastic warm song Ringo released on the b-side of It Don’t Come Easy which documents Ringo’s want to play with and see the others. 

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4 December 2013
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You can see why Ringo was, in a way, the glue that held the Beatles together; where the other three could easily clash, he was constantly dependable and easy-going and the others all individually held firm friendships with him. There’s a reason why all the other Beatles invited him back to work with them again after the split; they had great respect for him on both a personal and musical level. I think John and Ringo had a particularly strong relationship. It’s beautiful to watch George helping Ringo compose Octopus’s Garden in the Let It Be film. And I was moved very much by this moment in a transcript of an argument from the Get Back sessions, where Paul is talking to John about how the group’s power structure has been changing:

PAUL: [inaudible] Let me tell you what I think. [pause; inaudible] thing is this. You have always been at the front of the chute. Now, there have been some secondary rungs, but George has been third rung—

RINGO: And I’ve been the cabbage.

PAUL: [immediately] Never.

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^

Never heard that. I really don’t know much about those sessions I guess. But I love that bit.

 

Like everyone else already said, he was just very friendly and easy-going. I don’t think you’d get in a fight easily with him.

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I’ve been thinking over the past few days about the Beatles sacking Pete and bringing Ringo into the group. JPG liked pleasing the crowds so dropping P and adding R went against many of their Liverpool/Merseyside fans. I guess needing Ringo so that the group would be better musically overpowered the “needs” of some of their fans. Joe’s page https://www.beatlesbible.com/1…..ool-217/ 

Looks like I thought some about this topic a few years ago https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..1/#p204972

JPGP looks so strange. That P at the end looks like the drummer only has 1 drumstick. PR. Yes, that R looks much more stable and solid.

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The Beatles, all four, put their own feelings for their music ahead of what would please the fans. If you consider how they developed thru the 50’s and 60’s there were so many moments that they could have stayed still to ensure the fan base were content with whatever was being released or done but they instead pressed on looking for something different. John, Paul, George and Ringo all had that desire to continually evolve, try new things and if some didn’t like it others might instead. 

I think everyone agreed the Beatles had a clear defined ‘sound’ yet no one could really say what it was, it was just Beatles. Even now you hear it and you know it’s them but sit down and say what it is and there are about 40 examples of it being something else. I don’t think there are many bands to the same degree, which is probably very telling in itself for why they remain so relevant 50 years later. 

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That’s good, mmm, thinking about the group changing their music as time went on even thought some folks didn’t like it. Great input!

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meanmistermustard spake the gospel truth

I think everyone agreed the Beatles had a clear defined ‘sound’ yet no one could really say what it was, it was just Beatles. Even now you hear it and you know it’s them but sit down and say what it is and there are about 40 examples of it being something else. I don’t think there are many bands to the same degree, which is probably very telling in itself for why they remain so relevant 50 years later.   

Often imitated, never duplicated. Part of it was the chemistry of their voices together, part of it was the guitars they used, part of it was Ringo’s rhythmic habits… the list goes on, but the more you try to pin it down, the more elusive it becomes, especially when you consider how diverse their catalogue is, and yet how the vast majority of it still somehow sounds “like the Beatles”. It’s a certain kind of magic. It’s what made me fall in love with them All Those Years Ago. heart

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I agree, Ringo is like the drummer I aspire to be. There’s just moments in certain songs that show how great he is. 

The “cmon” part in Please Please Me pops into me head. Obviously the drum solo in The End too. Along with many other moments thru the beatles’ career.

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