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Bernard Purdie Played Drums On Beatles Recordings!
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Inner Light
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7 October 2011 - 9.52pm

Check this out! According to Purdie, he played the drums on 21 Beatle songs including 'She Love You'

The only thing I can think of is Dexter Jr. brought him into Capitol Records and had him overdub Ringo's drums on the American Releases only but I still have my doubts.

http://www.jimvallance.com/03-.....urdie.html

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7 October 2011 - 10.19pm

The guy is talking absolute nonsense. Ringo never played on anything! Purdie played on 21 songs early on! Erm listen to the session tape bootlegs from the Please Please Me outtakes onwards and you have Ringo all over the songs. Plus there are no differences in the drumming between the us and uk tapes.

This is on of those really stupid claims to fame, he probably made the claim in the 70's, got away with such an idiotic statement and kept going unable to backtrack without looking a right fool, so kept repeating his inanities.

And even if you begin to think 'wow, this is big news' when Purdie was asked which ones he said 'um i cant say'. 

This absolute rubbish has actually irritated me.blue-meanieblue-meanieblue-meanie

 

Purdie actually sounds like a really good musician with a really impressive list of people who he has had worked with. Why he then made these claims is beyond me.

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7 October 2011 - 11.48pm

Inner Light said:

Check this out! According to Purdie, he played the drums on 21 Beatle songs including 'She Love You'

The only thing I can think of is Dexter Jr. brought him into Capitol Records and had him overdub Ringo's drums on the American Releases only but I still have my doubts.

He played on some old Decca songs, ie over Pete Best. Never used.

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8 October 2011 - 9.53am

According to wiki Purdie also drummed on some of the Tony Sheridan recordings to give it a "punchier sound". So thats Hamburg, Decca, and early EMI recordings. 

 

Leave it to a Beatle to answer the 21 song claims. Ringo "Well then, what was I doing in the studio? I've heard that rubbish before.  Everyone was expecting me to come out and fight it. You don't bother fighting that shit."

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8 October 2011 - 12.25pm

I stopped reading it when he said that Brian paid him ten large to keep his mouth shut. I knew right then it was a load of horse dung. I couldn't imagine Brian ever paying anyone $10,000 for anything.

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The article did have one redeeming quality. When I scrolled down, I saw my favorite picture of Sir George.

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Other than that...a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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22 November 2013 - 5.06pm

Zig said
I stopped reading it when he said that Brian paid him ten large to keep his mouth shut. I knew right then it was a load of horse dung. I couldn't imagine Brian ever paying anyone $10,000 for anything.

brian-epstein

The article did have one redeeming quality. When I scrolled down, I saw my favorite picture of Sir George.

george-martin

Other than that...a-hard-days-night-paul-11

How much did Brian pay that lass who claimed Paul was the father of her kid - a paternity claim that lasted thru the decades? I'm just curious.

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22 November 2013 - 5.51pm

Purdie has been debunked so many times it's not even funny. The guy is a liar and a fucking fool. What, was Ringo playing along to a backing track in all of that live and studio footage? :roll:

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23 November 2013 - 6.14pm

meanmistermustard said
The guy is talking absolute nonsense. Ringo never played on anything! Purdie played on 21 songs early on! Erm listen to the session tape bootlegs from the Please Please Me outtakes onwards and you have Ringo all over the songs. Plus there are no differences in the drumming between the us and uk tapes.

This is on of those really stupid claims to fame, he probably made the claim in the 70's, got away with such an idiotic statement and kept going unable to backtrack without looking a right fool, so kept repeating his inanities.

And even if you begin to think 'wow, this is big news' when Purdie was asked which ones he said 'um i cant say'. 

This absolute rubbish has actually irritated me.blue-meanieblue-meanieblue-meanie

 

Purdie actually sounds like a really good musician with a really impressive list of people who he has had worked with. Why he then made these claims is beyond me.

Why? Because one could always get more famous or use more money. The reason why is easy.

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23 November 2013 - 10.29pm

Linde said

meanmistermustard said
The guy is talking absolute nonsense. Ringo never played on anything! Purdie played on 21 songs early on! Erm listen to the session tape bootlegs from the Please Please Me outtakes onwards and you have Ringo all over the songs. Plus there are no differences in the drumming between the us and uk tapes.

This is on of those really stupid claims to fame, he probably made the claim in the 70's, got away with such an idiotic statement and kept going unable to backtrack without looking a right fool, so kept repeating his inanities.

And even if you begin to think 'wow, this is big news' when Purdie was asked which ones he said 'um i cant say'. 

This absolute rubbish has actually irritated me.blue-meanieblue-meanieblue-meanie

 

Purdie actually sounds like a really good musician with a really impressive list of people who he has had worked with. Why he then made these claims is beyond me.

Why? Because one could always get more famous or use more money. The reason why is easy.

But no-one (well no-one with a brain cell) would believe him so it only ends up with Purdie looking stupid and quite pathetic, at least get his facts straight and not claim he overdubbed Ringo. Is a bit of cash worth losing some of your credibility (some people obviously think it is going by the way some people live and how they act)?

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of "self" to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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23 November 2013 - 10.39pm

Yeah well apparently some dipshits think so. Because some people really don't have or use their brains.

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23 November 2013 - 11.06pm

Linde said
Yeah well apparently some dipshits think so. Because some people really don't have or use their brains.

It would be nice if it was different tho. "Ah but at least they are happy" is what the normal, standard response is. Well a-hard-days-night-paul-11blue-meanie to that.

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24 November 2013 - 3.32pm

Indeed. Stuff like that really annoys me and makes me want to pull my hair out, yet it amuses me that they don't see how stupid they are. 

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25 November 2013 - 2.11am

meanmistermustard said
According to wiki Purdie also drummed on some of the Tony Sheridan recordings to give it a "punchier sound". So thats Hamburg, Decca, and early EMI recordings. 

 

Leave it to a Beatle to answer the 21 song claims. Ringo "Well then, what was I doing in the studio? I've heard that rubbish before.  Everyone was expecting me to come out and fight it. You don't bother fighting that shit."

 Bernard Purdie played on 3 Beatles songs for Atlantic Records- "Ain't She Sweet," "If You Loved Me Baby," and "Sweet Georgia Brown."  Purdie did not play on any other Beatles recordings.  

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25 November 2013 - 1.04pm

This is one of those which is amusing the first time, but becomes tiresome the second time.  And the 3rd.  And the 29th...

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25 November 2013 - 5.06pm

I kinda feel sorry for Purdie: A great drummer with a fine recorded track record behind him, he somehow feels that having respect within the industry and from musicians and a body of recorded work behind him isn't enough. He deserves to be famous among regular people, famous like a celebrity, like...Ringo Starr! So he makes up this story in the '70s, at a time when the body of research into the Beatles' recordings and performing legacy isn't as exhaustive as it is today, and when he maybe assumes such a tale can't ever be fairly easily debunked. And now he has to live with this story of his which nobody takes seriously.

And yet, and yet...that wholly plausible evidence of Jim Vallance's that Purdie may indeed have enhanced Pete Best's drumming on the Atco versions of the Hamburg-era recordings is convincing indeed. Could it be that Purdie actually performed that work - and then later chose to exaggerate his contributions by coming up with this inflated figure of 21 songs (including "Yeah Yeah Yeah"), instead of just a handful? And claiming that it was "Brian Epstein himself" who supervised this bit of studio cosmetic work, insisting that it had to remain top-secret? And choosing to malign Ringo out of ignorance, perhaps because he doesn't even know of the existence of Pete Best?

That's what I personally choose to believe, just because I don't like feeling embarrassed for someone of Purdie's stature on his own behalf, being forced to constantly double-down after being caught in a lie. Far easier for me to imagine that it was a minor-but-legitimate claim blown up into a lie thanks to some exaggeration, plus some good-faith misinformation and faulty memory.

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8 March 2016 - 1.20pm

Purdie played added some drums to the pre Ringo era (circa 1962) where Ringo was'nt fully in the band. Further they were songs that the Beatles were doing with Tony Sheridan, before they got famous. 

Oh yeah he did play on the Sgt. Pepper soundtrack (which incidentally was NOT the Beatles in 1978) , with the Peter Frampton and the Bee Gees doing Beatle songs.

Purdie was credited on the soundtrack album for Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1978) and more recently he was the drummer for the 2009 Broadway revival of Hairand appeared on the associated Broadway cast recordin

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