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The Best Ways to Listen to The Beatles
5 March 2015
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I used to EQ stuff, but I found with the Beatles, that unless you're trying to listen to something specific, the mix will always beat you. You can't compete with the limiting on earlier albums and the midrange is really sensitive, even on Abbey Road (try doing a Rock preset on IWYSSH and watch half the guitar disappear).

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I used to EQ stuff, but I found with the Beatles, that unless you're trying to listen to something specific, the mix will always beat you. You can't compete with the limiting on earlier albums and the midrange is really sensitive, even on Abbey Road (try doing a Rock preset on IWYSSH and watch half the guitar disappear).

Same, and not just with the Beatles - I have had bits of Dark Side of the Moon sound so different without EQ - both pre and post remastered versions.

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ewe2 said
I used to EQ stuff, but I found with the Beatles, that unless you're trying to listen to something specific, the mix will always beat you. You can't compete with the limiting on earlier albums and the midrange is really sensitive, even on Abbey Road (try doing a Rock preset on IWYSSH and watch half the guitar disappear).

For fun I put "A Day In The Life" on my 5 channel surround sound system, but of course since it was originally a 2 channel recording, it was a simulated surround sound.  I also removed the front speakers and just played the rear surrounds.  Gave it somewhat of a echoy sounds, but nothing too drastic.

I understand the Beatles Love CD/LP is recorded in 5 channel surround!  Anyone hear anything unique?

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The best ways (for me) to listen to the Beatles: 

  • With decent speakers so the bass is audible (VERY important). I agree with Sir Paul, anything on smartphone speakers is HORRIBLE... 
  • In mono or stereo-- but mono if it's through headphones... 
  • Actually LISTENING and not just HEARING... (I find cleaning up is good for this. I loathe housework, but I can focus on the music better than if I'm reading a book, or posting on the Beatles Bible, or whatever...) 
  • Using the ears and the brain in combination, not just the ears... 
  • In chronological order... 
  • Listening to the Beatles. 

That's just me... a-hard-days-night-george-10

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The earphones that come with your phone, ipod etc are often garbage. Why you'd spend a fortune on a device and then settle for basic earphones i dont understand as you can get really good ones for a fraction of the cost of your phone.

To actually listen to music i find headphones is the way.

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The earphones that come with your phone, ipod etc are often garbage. Why you'd spend a fortune on a device and then settle for basic earphones i dont understand as you can get really good ones for a fraction of the cost of your phone.

To actually listen to music i find headphones is the way.

So very true. I was listening through a pair of cheap headphones for a while, but I switched to a pretty decent pair of Sony earbuds (maybe $25-$30) with half-way reasonable noise canceling capability. Makes a big difference.

I may consider upgrading to a set of those Skullcandy earbuds that seem to be all the rage, but I want to do a bit more research first. I've heard that Skullcandy can tend to over-do it on the bass end of things.

Not a bit like Cagney.

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I'm not saying the Apple headphones are great, but they are good enough for me when I'm cutting the lawn with my very loud lawnmower!  I could only imagine what a nice big ear covering pair w/noise cancelling would sound like!  Definitely better Bass would be the first noticeable difference.

So in short, I like listening to the Beatles, when I'm lawn cutting, snow shovelling & vacuuming with headphones.  Sometimes I blast the home stereo really loud when I'm vacuuming instead of the headphones!

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If I'm using iTunes or VLC, I turn up only the 16k and 64 in the EQ, just to give the mixes a little, and I stress little, extra kick.

And for headphones, I use my trusty Sony MDR-V6 monitor headphones. They're a bit big, but they work. a-hard-days-night-john-3

 

And as for the whole mono vs stereo thing. From Love Me Do to Good Night (or It's All Too Much if you go in mixing date order) it's mono all the way. a-hard-days-night-george-10

If I wanted to hear unavoidably hard-panned separation from 4-track masters, I'll go back to my 1987 CDs. paul-mccartney

And while I grew up on that, it's unbearable once I heard the Pepper Reprise, Paperback Writer , Baby You're A Rich Man , Savoy Truffle , etc. in mono. The punch, the focus, I could go on!

Those fantastic live things that happened while they were mixing are wonderful.

 

And to cover the Helter Skelter fade out, I've made my own "blistered" edit of mono mix, I just stick that in the playlist for completions sake. ahdn_paul_01

 

From Get Back to The End , it's all stereo. a-hard-days-night-john-1

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SirQuacky said
If I'm using iTunes or VLC, I turn up only the 16k and 64 in the EQ, just to give the mixes a little, and I stress little, extra kick.

Hey SQ, welcome to the Forum.  Speaking of iTunes EQ, check this out: http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how.....in-itunes/

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Weed. a-hard-days-night-george-10

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Weed. a-hard-days-night-george-10

What about Mary Jane????  a-hard-days-night-ringo-10

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Thanks Bongo, glad to to have registered. a-hard-days-night-john-6

I never bothered with those settings before, but I'm trying them out and the Enhancer is doing great work on the mono tracks.a-hard-days-night-john-1

 

Sound Check by description sounds an awful lot like compression, but I'm listening to a few songs with it on and it doesn't seem to be ruining the sound. george-martin

In fact with them all seemingly level like this I can turn the volume up even more! beatlemaniacs_02_gif

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I'm not saying the Apple headphones are great, but they are good enough for me when I'm cutting the lawn with my very loud lawnmower!  I could only imagine what a nice big ear covering pair w/noise cancelling would sound like!  Definitely better Bass would be the first noticeable difference.a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

WOW.  I am now currently in love with my new beats headphones! Beatles haven't sounded this good since the CD releases a-hard-days-night-ringo-15

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Bongo said

Bongo said
I'm not saying the Apple headphones are great, but they are good enough for me when I'm cutting the lawn with my very loud lawnmower!  I could only imagine what a nice big ear covering pair w/noise cancelling would sound like!  Definitely better Bass would be the first noticeable difference.a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

WOW.  I am now currently in love with my new beats headphones! Beatles haven't sounded this good since the CD releases a-hard-days-night-ringo-15

I still think they sound fab on a good stereo system - headphones are fine but they are a different experience to a room-filling beat from a pair of good speakers.

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    Agreed!  apple01

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If I'm using iTunes, I turn up only the 16k and 64 in the EQ, just to give the mixes a little, and I stress little, extra kick.

And as for the whole mono vs stereo thing. From Love Me Do to Good Night (or It's All Too Much if you go in mixing date order) it's mono all the way. a-hard-days-night-george-10

Great news if you own an iPhone!  You can "switch your Stereo playback to Mono ", with just a few clicks in the settings.  Great news for me, 'cause I can get all my music on my iTunes & Classic iPod, but not as much on my iPhone, so I didn't have to add my Beatles Mono on the iPhone.

Go into your Settings: a) General, b) Accessibility, c) Mono Audio.  It's that simple, you can even ask Siri to do it for you hands free!  apple01http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk38/rickdelsie/The%20Beatles/parlunread_zps28270d9d.gif

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I'm using iTunes now too, playing the music over my Mac's internal speakers. Not perfect by any means and the nuances are much better audible on my iPod. Alas, those Apple ear buds don't fit my ears properly and I end up with sores in my ears, which is very painful :-( In time, I'll find myself some proper headphones and some proper speakers. 

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Now it might be outrageous, and all, especially seeing how I'm a musician and 'should know better', but--

 

It doesn't really matter that much when you're listening to their music, and not the sounds (big difference, there!). And while Sir McCartney's view on portable devices' speakers is aching obviously correct, I think even he would appreciate the job George Martin did on their recordings: whatever you play them on, however nasty your speakers/headphones are, the mix is all there, pertaining the core of the overall input, with little regard for how bad the device's spectrum is. Try comparing *any* other band between their analog/CD/other media on good speakers *and* mp3-thru-smartphone-speakers - well, let me tell you, you don't really want to do this, but for science...

 

Of course, the best experience comes with the cleanest sound output possible, there's no arguing that. However, it amazes me how Martin managed to balance all factors such elegantly. He is quite an elegant figure, true--

And for the last, the very Beatles' sound wasn't really that clean in the first place. It was the start of the Loudness War, I think, managing to fit all that weirdness into a vinyl track.

They started so many things. Loud LPs being one of them. 

Just saying, the music is all there and whatever you play it on, it won't ruin it. Witchcraft!

 

So what's the best way to listen to The Beatles? 

Well...

'Listen to the music playing in your head', is the way to go for me. I'm serious.

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Now it might be outrageous, and all, especially seeing how I'm a musician and 'should know better', but--

 

It doesn't really matter that much when you're listening to their music, and not the sounds (big difference, there!). And while Sir McCartney's view on portable devices' speakers is aching obviously correct, I think even he would appreciate the job George Martin did on their recordings: whatever you play them on, however nasty your speakers/headphones are, the mix is all there, pertaining the core of the overall input, with little regard for how bad the device's spectrum is. Try comparing *any* other band between their analog/CD/other media on good speakers *and* mp3-thru-smartphone-speakers - well, let me tell you, you don't really want to do this, but for science...

 

Of course, the best experience comes with the cleanest sound output possible, there's no arguing that. However, it amazes me how Martin managed to balance all factors such elegantly. He is quite an elegant figure, true--

And for the last, the very Beatles' sound wasn't really that clean in the first place. It was the start of the Loudness War, I think, managing to fit all that weirdness into a vinyl track.

They started so many things. Loud LPs being one of them. 

Just saying, the music is all there and whatever you play it on, it won't ruin it. Witchcraft!

 

So what's the best way to listen to The Beatles? 

Well...

'Listen to the music playing in your head', is the way to go for me. I'm serious.

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I'm using iTunes now too, playing the music over my Mac's internal speakers. Not perfect by any means and the nuances are much better audible on my iPod. Alas, those Apple ear buds don't fit my ears properly and I end up with sores in my ears, which is very painful :-( In time, I'll find myself some proper headphones and some proper speakers. 

Your gonna have to break the bank and get some ear muff headphones.  I absolutely love my "beats" headphones, but you can get some cheaper ones that will still sound better than the apple headphones without the sores.

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