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Question on Beatles 1970's UK Single Releases
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alien64
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29 July 2012 - 5.10pm

Hi,

 

I'm hoping someone on the forum will know the answer to these questions relating to 1970's UK Single Releases:

1. Is the 1976 UK single release of YESTERDAY (Apple R 6013 - charted in the UK in March 1976 - reached no. 8) the original Mono recording or the 1965 Stereo LP version. There seems to be conflicting information on-line about this!

2. Is the 1976 UK single release of Back In The USSR (Parlophone  R 6016 - charted in the UK in July 1976 - reached no. 19) the original Mono recording or the 1968 Stereo LP version. If it is the stereo version would this be the same edit found on the Blue Album 1967-70 - which does not seague into the following track?

3. Is the 1978 UK single release of Sgt. Pepper'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND/With A Little Help From My Friends  (Parlophone R 6022 - charted in the UK in October 1978 - reached no. 63) the original Mono recording or the 1967 Stereo  LP version. If it is the stereo version would this be the same edit found on the Blue Album 1967-70 and on the original 1967 Stereo LP of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band? I believe the 1978 US single version is a different mix again!

 

Many thanks if anyone can clarify all of the above :-)

 

Dave

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vonbontee
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30 July 2012 - 8.13pm

I have no authoritative data about this, but I can't see ANY of those singles being released monaurally as late as the '70s. "Abbey Road" was the first Beatles album not mixed for mono, and I believe "Hey Jude" was the first stereo single, so that would suggest that mono was abandoned entirely in '69. (But this is just guesswork on my part...)

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GeorgeTSimpson
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30 July 2012 - 9.25pm

Get Back was the first stereo single in the us, ballad of john and yoko in the uk, White Album the first stereo only album in the us, Abbey Road in the uk (although the mono yellow submarine released in the uk was only a fold-down of the stereo version)

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meanmistermustard

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31 July 2012 - 2.01am

The cd singles were reissues, actually they were never out of print but that didnt matter to EMI, so surely the original mono for those prior to The Ballad Of John And Yoko.

I honestly dont know, i have foreign pressings of these stashed away, but will have a look. I would imagine by that time it was all stereo for everything newly issued. As for Back In The USSR and Pepper/With A Little Help i think it would be the same edit as the White Album and Pepper respectively but its not a definative definate. Its not something ive ever thought of, just going by what is more likely. I'll dig out the 45's tomorrow. 

Thinking about it Back In The USSR is probably the exact same as on the Rock And Roll Music lp since it was released to promote it, i doubt EMI went to much trouble as it was a milking the cash cow exercise.

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vonbontee
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31 July 2012 - 10.42pm

meanmistermustard said

Thinking about it Back In The USSR is probably the exact same as on the Rock And Roll Music lp since it was released to promote it, .

Interesting, since in USA/Canada it was "Got To Get You Into My Life" chosen to fulfill that role. I remember hearing it on the radio during the summer of '76 (my first exposure to the song) but not knowing it was the Beatles until a few years later...

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1 August 2012 - 12.31am

Back In The USSR got a promo as well, the foursome at airports. No idea why they had different singles in the countries.

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1 August 2012 - 6.55pm

Capitol Records up to their old tricks, "Screw the UK, we'll release what WE want for a single!"

Also, regarding the b-side: I've read online that Capitol chose "Helter Skelter" to co-incide with the premiere of a TV movie of the same name (a dramatization of the book documenting the Manson case) but this could just be speculation.

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alien64
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1 August 2012 - 7.35pm

Thanks for the information :-)

 

Dave

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meanmistermustard

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1 August 2012 - 10.26pm

vonbontee said
Capitol Records up to their old tricks, "Screw the UK, we'll release what WE want for a single!"

Also, regarding the b-side: I've read online that Capitol chose "Helter Skelter" to co-incide with the premiere of a TV movie of the same name (a dramatization of the book documenting the Manson case) but this could just be speculation.

Ive heard the same thing regarding Helter Skelter and the movie and it wouldnt be that surprising to hear EMI cashing in regardless of the subject matter. If it was 20 years later Apple woul probably have released merchandise for its tv Premier.

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vonbontee
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2 August 2012 - 10.13pm

Actually, now I've just read (on Wikipedia admittedly) that "Helter Skelter" was originally supposed to be the A-side of the single, but Capitol changed it because of "negative connotations" with the movie having just aired! (In April; the single was released in June.) I'm not sure whether that song would've had better commercial prospects than "Got To Get You Into My Life", so whether that's true or not, who knows?

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10 August 2012 - 6.07am

1976 Yesterday single: Original 1965 stereo mix from UK Help!

 

1976 Back In The U.S.S.R. single: 1976 stereo mix from Rock 'N' Roll Music

 

I'm not sure about the Sgt. Pepper single, but I bet it's the 1967-1970 version.

 

I hope that clears things up. :)

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