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No more "lead guitar!"
4 November 2020
6.30pm
bryanz
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Hello,

If I may make a short introductory rant, I hope that someday the personnel listings on the internet will stop listing "lead guitar" in songs where there is no solo.  I've read it a million times--I think particularly in early Beatles recordings, where any guitar played by George was called lead.  I suspect the practice sprang from studio notes by EMI personnel.

Meaningful descriptions include "guitar solo," "acoustic guitar," "12-string guitar," "electric 6-string," or even "strummed guitar," "fingerpicked acoustic"...I could make a better list if it mattered, but you get my point--I want to know who played what guitar parts!  No fault at all to the magnificent Joe, btw!

Thanks for listening 🙂

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4 November 2020
7.13pm
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Welcome @bryanz

Personally, I like that description. Rhythm or lead differentiates which guitar part each player is credited with. The lead parts without a solo are still lead guitar parts, they're the little melodic bits around the song. 

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4 November 2020
8.57pm
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I agree to an extent since some guitar parts (like Paul's acoustic guitar on Yesterday ) can't be firmly labeled as rhythm or lead but at the same time, i find the terms to be fitting ~80% of the time and i think that we should only use more generic terms like acoustic guitar or electric guitar when the part doesn't fit into one of those categories.

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4 November 2020
10.37pm
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at the very least, labels such as 12-string and classical guitar are helpful. Lead and Rhythm are sometimes too ambiguous, but with the Beatles just give it another listen and you can hear whether or not its George John even Paul or a session guitarist. Of course there are exceptions like Hey Bulldog

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