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3.51pm
29 July 2019
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Hi all - If you use any digital music software you might be familiar with the idea of VSI/pre-sets having names with more than a nod to the original sound they try to recreate.
I normally love de-coding the references
The ones shown in the screen shot below are some I have in Propellerheads Reason's Abbey Road keyboard selection.
They are all so obvious that it isn't much of a challenge - but the one I have highlighted has me stumped...anybody have any idea of which song it refers to?
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27 November 2016
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That's Mr Kite backwards...
So Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite , I guess?
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1.22am
29 July 2019
Offline The Hole Got Fixed said
That's Mr Kite backwards...So Being For The Benefit Of Mr Kite , I guess?
@sooper8
Aha! Lightbulb goes on...d'oh! don't know why I couldn't see that.
Thanks for that
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The Hole Got Fixed9.07am
29 July 2019
Offline For those on a budget (ie need free plug ins) , here's one that might be of interest if you are recreating a Beatles sound on your DAW?
http://www.shatteredglassaudio.....roduct/106
Disclaimer - I have no connection to the web site, seller or product.
6.57pm
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27 November 2016
Offline Ooo that looks interesting, I'll check that one out! Thanks!
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31 March 2008
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Has anyone tried Fab Four? It sounds like it's been done with a lot of love and attention. Engineered by Ken Scott, who certainly knows his stuff.
http://www.soundsonline.com/fab-four
INSTRUMENTS:
- Guitars (some costing over $200,000 each) played by LAURENCE JUBER (Paul McCartney and Wings) include Gretsch Firebird (1959), Gretsch Tennessean (1963), Rickenbacker 360-12 (1965), Martin D-28 (1966), Fender Stratocaster (1956), Epiphone Casino (1965), Fender Telecaster (1951), Gibson SG (1960), Les Paul Goldtop (1957), Gibson J200 (1966), Hofner 500 Bass (1963) and Rickenbacker 4001S Bass (1964).
- Guitars were sampled with up and down strokes, multiple velocities and picking styles, some with chords and effects
- Most of the sounds would be impossible to create without all of the above equipment. For example, the "revostortion" guitar sound was created by feeding a Epiphone Casino guitar into one EMI REDD 47 preamp, and the output into a second EMI REDD 47 preamp, which is exactly how it was created originally by the EMI/Abbey Road engineers
- Drums played by DENNY SEIWELL (Paul McCartney and Wings) include a rare 1960 Ludwig downbeat kit with Zildjian cymbals (snare 5 x 14/toms 9 x 13/16 x 16/kick 22 x 14/zildjan 20" crash ride/18" crash medium/14" Hi-Hat)
- Drums are all multi-sampled with up to 16 velocity layers, left and right hand. The sounds were all matched to a particular style (e.g. A Day in the Drums, Ticket to Drums, Yer Drums). We even recorded some heavily modulated cymbals through a Fairchild limiter for authenticity
- Keyboards include Baldwin Electric Harpsichord (Because I'm a Harpsichord), Clavioline (Baby I'm a Clavioline), Lucy in the Lowery, Strawberry Flutes, We Can Work a Harmonium, and other stringed instruments including Swarmandel Forever
EFFECTS:
- FAB FOUR includes a software version of ADT (artificial double tracking) with built-in tape simulator, created and programmed specially for this project. The software includes the smoothest filters you'll ever hear, delay, and multiple high quality reverb choices.
Instruments
Baby I'm A Clavioline (Clavioline/Baldwin Amp)
Bass Tripper (1963 Hofner 500 Bass)
Because I'm A Harpsichord (Baldwin Electric Harpsichord/Baldwin Amp)
Come To Bass (1964 Rickenbacker 4001S Bass)
Come To Drums (1960 Ludwig Downbeat Kit)
Come To Guitar Rhythm (1965 Epiphone Casino Electric Guitar/1967 Fender DeLuxe Amp)
Come To Guitar Solo (1957 Les Paul Goldtop Electric Guitar/1963 Fender Bassman Amp)
Day In The Drums (1960 Ludwig Downbeat Kit)
Everybody's Got Guitar (1965 Epiphone Casino Electric Guitar/1966 Vox Defiant Amp)
Fairchild Modulated Cymbals (Zildjian Cymbals)
Fixing A Guitar Solo (1956 Fender Stratocaster Electric Guitar/1966 Vox Defiant Amp)
Getting A Better Guitar (1951 Fender Telecaster Electric Guitar/1966 Vox 730 Amp)
Get Back My Guitar (1965 Epiphone Casino Electric Guitar/1967 Fender Showman Amp)
Help I'm A Snare (plus kit) (1960 Ludwig Downbeat Kit)
Here Comes The Guitar (1966 Gibson J200 Acoustic picked)
I'm Only A Backwards Guitar (1965 Epiphone Casino Electric Guitar/1966 Vox 7120 Amp)
I Want Guitar (Epiphone Casino/Fender DeLuxe and Fender Strat/Fender Tan Showman/doubled)
I Will Play A Guitar Solo (1966 Martin D28 with ADT)
I'm A Blackbird (1966 Martin D28 Acoustic Guitar fingered and picked)
In The End There Will Be Drums (1960 Ludwig Downbeat Kit)
Let It Be Organ (Hammond B3 Organ)
Lucy In The Lowery (Lowery Heritage Deluxe Organ)
Lucy Lead Guitar (1956 Fender Stratocaster Electric Guitar with Leslie Speaker)
Michelle Is A Guitar Solo (1965 Epiphone Casino Electric Guitar/1963 Fender Bassman Amp)
Madonna Piano (Steinway B Piano)
Miscellaneous (Claps, Tambourine, Cowbell, Screaming Girls)
Nowhere Guitar (1956 Fender Stratocaster Electric Guitar/1963 Vox AC30)
Party Guitar (Gretsch Tennessean Electric Guitar/1963 Vox AC50 Amp)
Penny Snare (plus kit) (1960 Ludwig Downbeat Kit)
Pepper Guitar (Gibson SG Guitar/1966 Vox Defiant Amp)
Revostortion Guitar (1965 Epiphone Casino Electric Guitar/2 x REDD 47 Preamps)
Roll Over Guitar (1959 Gretsch Country Gentleman Electric Guitar/1964 Vox AC100 Amp)
Something Is A Guitar Solo (1957 Les Paul Goldtop Electric Guitar/1963 Fender Bassman Amp)
Something Is A Rhythm Guitar (1951 Fender Telecaster Electric Guitar with Leslie Speaker)
Strawberry Drums (1960 Ludwig Downbeat Kit)
Strawberry Flutes (original sound licensed from http://www.mellotron.com)
Swarmandel Forever (Swarmandel)
Ticket To Guitar (Rickenbacker 360-12 Electric Guitar/1965 Vox AC50 Amp)
Ticket To Drums (1960 Ludwig Downbeat Kit)
We Can Work A Harmonium (Harmonium)
With a Little Help From My Bass (1964 Rickenbacker 4001S Bass)
Within A Sitar / Love You Sitar (Sitar)
Within A Tabla (Tabla)
What You're Drumming (1960 Ludwig Downbeat Kit)
Yer Drums (1960 Ludwig Downbeat Kit in Small Room)
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7.59pm
9 August 2020
Offline Joe said
Has anyone tried Fab Four? It sounds like it's been done with a lot of love and attention. Engineered by Ken Scott, who certainly knows his stuff.http://www.soundsonline.com/fab-four
I bought EastWest's Fab Four a few months ago, and while it's not perfect (as VST Guitars rarely are) I really love it.
I made this using it.
The Drums and Bass are the stars of it for me.
The Drums deviate from the midi standard a bit, and put left and right hand hits on 2 different keys, making for a more realistic sound if used right. My main gripe with the drums is not every kit has a side stick and there is no brush kits (despite it seeming like it would be a easy inclusion, since they were used on Lady Madonna , When I'm 64, Honey Pie , ect) but you can mix and match drums by setting 2 to the same channel, and turning off snares, cymbals, kicks, ect for each kit.
The guitars can be really hit or miss, depending on how they are used and mixed.
My favorites are I Want Guitar, Everybody's Got Guitar, Here Comes The Guitar, I'm A Blackbird Guitar, Lucy Lead Guitar, Party Guitar, Something Is A Guitar Solo, and Ticket To Guitar.
If you put a slow attack on Ticket To Guitar, it makes a good 'Yes It Is ' guitar.
The biggest gripes/gaps are:
Early 1962-1964 era stuff is really lacking. you can get by with the 'Roll Over Guitar', 'Party Guitar', and 'Bass Tripper', but a 'Guitar Feels Fine' or 'Guitar Tripper' patch would have been nice. You can find some decent Harmonica VSTs or SF2s elsewhere, but it's a major missing instrument too.
Some more keys would have been nice too, like a ''I Am The E-Piano', 'Flying Mellotron', 'Don't Bring Rhodes Down', 'Maxwell's Silver Moog' or 'You Never Give Me Your Piano' but again there is some decent VSTs and SF2s for these if you look.
As I said, no brush kit. Some Bongos and Shakers for the percussion would have also been nice.
Beatle-Like Vocal Harmonies patches are the one thing I just can't find anywhere, and are a big part of the Beatle sound.
'Let It Be Organ' is mislabeled 'Get Back Organ' in the VST.
Also I get why they did not include it in this pack due to expense, but I'm really disappointed they never made a sequel pack or something to get some orchestra instruments. Stuff like 'Walrus Chellos' 'Harp's Leaving Home' 'Strawberry Brass' 'When Oboe's 64' 'You've Got To Hide Your Flute Away' 'Eleanore's Strings'
I have not looked too deep into orchestra VSTs but most I've tried to use sound kinda out of place with the more vintage sounding Fab Four stuff.
It you can get it on one of their frequent sales for like $200 it's really worth it. The instruments also sound great when used in other contexts, outside of trying to replicate a 60s sound.
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cloudburst51502.08am
19 July 2020
Offline LarryInc64 - digging the feel of spiral mountain. You are def channeling the Beatles on that on. Good changes. So I bought this as well just recently while on my trek to record all Beatles tunes during the lockdown in California. I have tried to contact EastWest studios many times to get an answer on a question I didn’t feel I understood from their website description. Does this “plugin” let you play guitar “live” through it to get the Beatles sounds or is it just MIDI and all has to be played through a piano/synth interface? It was so cheap when I saw it I had to buy it hoping I could get some sounds I knew I couldn’t reproduce at home on Logic by myself. I saw in the manual online that you can use it somewhat as a “plugin” but could not get figure if it was a live plug in. What says you?
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9.35pm
20 August 2020
Offline It's midi and has to be played with a midi keyboard. Sadly, you can't play your guitar "through" it.
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cloudburst51502.51am
19 July 2020
Offline jude45 said
It's midi and has to be played with a midi keyboard. Sadly, you can't play your guitar "through" it.
Well that’s just great...ah well onto the next. I’ve gotten their first two singles of Love Me Do and Please Please Me as well as the first three tracks of the album recorded. I Saw Her Standing There , Misery , and Anna (Go To Him). Gotta say it is making me a better bass player especially since I bought this in July 2020...
3.37am
24 March 2014
Offline Hi @cloudburst5150 , i thought you might like to check out this video. These guys do Beatles covers and sometimes they explain a bit of the process of mixing and getting the right sound, instrument, etc... In that particular video they are mixing P.S. I love you and also share some tips on how they achieve that sound. I just thought you might enjoy it.
"I Need You by George Harrison"
1.44pm
9 August 2020
Offline Yeah as said, the Fab Four VST is for ether controlling with a midi instrument (like a keyboard or drum kit), or in software like FL Studio (what I used to make my tracks with it).
It's a bunch of pre-recorded samples of authentic instruments.
It may be good to look through the manual of it at least, it lists all the instruments, amps, and other equipment used.
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