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Rolling Stone rating of top Guitarists
6 January 2012
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GniknuS said:

I still think it's funny that RS has nothing better to talk about than this, I'm looking at the cover now and it also says “What's next for the Stones” as if anyone really cares what those 70 year old multi-millionaires are up to. Will they tour again and charge me $100 a ticket to sit in the last row? Oh the anticipation!

Hey! I'm waiting in anticipation to hear if 70 year old multi-millionaires will tour and charge me $100 to sit in the last row!

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“Into the Sky with Diamonds” said:

 

If there’s a tie between Hendrix and, say, Page, the tie-breaker goes to Hendrix, because no Hendrix, no Page.

Well, I love 'em both, and while I'll take Hendrix (probably my personal #1)  over Page, I can't fully agree with that, since Jimmy-with-a-“y” actually began his recording career a few years before Jimi-with-an-“i”. (Even played on the instrumental “This Boy ” from the Hard Day's Night soundtrack!)

Paul: Yeah well… first of all, we’re bringing out a ‘Stamp Out Detroit’ campaign.

         

6 January 2012
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My favorite solo guitarists (no particular order):

– Jimi Hendrix

– Slash (Saul Hudson)

– John Fogerty

George Harrison

– Kirk Hammett

– Eric Clapton

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6 January 2012
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PennyLane said:

GniknuS said:

I still think it’s funny that RS has nothing better to talk about than this, I’m looking at the cover now and it also says “What’s next for the Stones” as if anyone really cares what those 70 year old multi-millionaires are up to. Will they tour again and charge me $100 a ticket to sit in the last row? Oh the anticipation!

Hey! I’m waiting in anticipation to hear if 70 year old multi-millionaires will tour and charge me $100 to sit in the last row!

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I agree! I'd love to see the Stones in concert. My parents wouldn't take me even if they did tour….a-hard-days-night-paul-10

"Now and then, though, someone does begin to grow differently. Instead of down, his feet grow up toward the sky. But we do our best to discourage awkward things like that."

"What happens to them?" insisted Milo.

"Oddly enough, they often grow ten times the size of everyone else," said Alec thoughtfully, "and I’ve heard that they walk among the stars."

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6 January 2012
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Von Bontee said: “while I'll take Hendrix (probably my personal #1)  over Page, I can't fully agree with that, since Jimmy-with-a-“y” actually began his recording career a few years before Jimi-with-an-“i”. (Even played on the instrumental “This Boy ” from the Hard Day's Night soundtrack!)”

 

Good point. I didn't know Page played on “This Boy ” – great trivia tidbit.

But I'm guessing – and you'll correct me if I'm wrong – that, as accomplished as he might have already been, the pre-Led Zeppelin, pre-Hendrix Page sounded quite different from the Page we know.

The first Led Zeppelin album came out 2 years after Are You Experienced? wherefore my impression that Page was seriously influenced by Hendrix.

No?

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Lol, I did see the Stones about five or six years ago and they did charge me $100 to sit in the last row…and it was okay I suppose.

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I saw the Stones for about £40 years ago in Glasgow and if i could get a refund i'd be claiming.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Why? Were they awful?

"Now and then, though, someone does begin to grow differently. Instead of down, his feet grow up toward the sky. But we do our best to discourage awkward things like that."

"What happens to them?" insisted Milo.

"Oddly enough, they often grow ten times the size of everyone else," said Alec thoughtfully, "and I’ve heard that they walk among the stars."

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7 January 2012
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Before Keith and Mick had their latest falling out, it would cost you £3m to book the Rolling Stones for a performance. They were the most expensive act in the world by a distance.

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Seaglass, the biggest problem was the most boring guitar solo piece i have ever heard by Mr Richards as the others took a rest. I can remember just being unmoved throw out and wondering when it would finish, and we were looking forward to it being stones fans. But then i do a quick google search and find reviews saying what a great gig so what do i know? 

 

I think you pay a fortune for the stones due to their legacy and the fact that they might collapse on stage so high insurance costs. Tho paying £3m to get the stones to perform is a classic example of having far too much money. Would rather spend it on getting Paul and Ringo together – or getting the xfactor cancelled.

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7 January 2012
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“Into the Sky with Diamonds” said:

But I’m guessing – and you’ll correct me if I’m wrong – that, as accomplished as he might have already been, the pre-Led Zeppelin, pre-Hendrix Page sounded quite different from the Page we know

Oh absolutely, to a point. The whole world of guitar changed in the two years between AYE? and Zep's debut, and that certainly included Page, and Hendrix was a major catalyst to that change. I guess I'm thinking that Page was likely more influenced by Hendrix as a producer – like as an orchestrator and sculptor of varying guitar tracks and textures and effects – or as a showman (guitar hero as Superhero! wielding a violin bow instead of lighter fluid) than by much of anything to do with the actual playing, per se. (Also it's worth keeping in mind that both Jims were listening to the same Buddy Guy and Freddie King records before they started recording their own music.)

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Page had been working as a session musician in England for some before evening joining the Yardbirds in 1966. He played on the AHDN soundtrack as well as The Who's “I Can't Explain” (he plays rhythm guitar). Up until 1966 in America, Hendrix was backing several musicians like the Isley Brothers. So each guitarist already had their own sound before either new the other existed. But I think both guitarists looked to Clapton especially Jimi Hendrix. 

All in all, however, none of the so called top guitar players would be where they are today with Robert Johnson who pretty much influenced everyone.

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OK…I can't speak for Jimmy Page, but I can state that, their friendship aside, Hendrix took NOTHING from the playing style of Eric Clapton!

(The decision to make the Experience a 3-man band was indeed largely inspired by the example of Cream, the original power-trio, however.)

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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Hi would agree with Vonbontee. Clapton was (is) a blues guy who took blues up another notch in a big way.

Hendrix invented a whole new genre. I don't know that there's anything in the Rock cannon that compares to the opening 10 seconds of “House Burning Down” or the final moments of “Axis Bold as Love.”

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PennyLane said:

 But I think both guitarists looked to Clapton especially Jimi Hendrix.

Possibly, but Are You Experienced? came out months before Disraeli Gears, which was what made Clapton famous in America.

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8 January 2012
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I’ll chime in and say that Page is probably the most influential of the three because he’s not limited to electric guitar, or I should say he didn’t just limit himself to electric guitar. It’s impossible to say who was the “best” but let’s take it by songs, I love Hendrix but there is no way he has as many cool songs from a guitar perspective as Led Zeppelin. There is absolutely nothing like Over the Hills and Far Away that the other two put out. Most of Clapton’s acoustic stuff is from a songwriters perspective which is different. The reason I don’t really like these lists is that they don’t give nearly enough credit to acoustic guitar and I just don’t think that’s fair.
Page is the most influential because of how many genres he spans. His experimentations with open tunings have really helped me out a lot and open tunings are a mainstay of folk. So I guess I look at it that way, as a guitar player I feel as though I could gain the most from studying Page than the other two.

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Hmmmm … I don't know Gniknus.

Of course, it is personal preference to a certain extent, and you can't argue that.

I think the world of Jimmy Page – he's just extra-ordinary.  I saw him at Carnegie Hall at Led Zeppelin's first American concert, and have simply loved him ever since. His acoustic guitar work is indeed fantastic, “Since I've Been Loving You” brings me to my knees as do many of his solos.

And of course he's been around longer than Hendrix.

But in terms of songs that make your jaw drop, they're about even in my opinion.

For every “Over the Hills…” there's a “Little Miss Strange,” a crappy little song where he plays three guitar solos with three completely different styles and sounds, or the equally obscure “Them Changes” with the Band of Gypsies…

As stated above, there's nothing out there, IMHO, that compares to the opening 10 seconds of “House Burning Down” or the final moments of “Axis Bold as Love.”

But that's just me!

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I couldn't believe what I saw. It should be George, John, then Paul. Then maybe even Ringo! I'm not a fan of non Beatles related music, so I don't know any others a-hard-days-night-george-9 And for the best singers of all time, John was 5, and Paul… 11 too I think? It should've been Paul, either John or George, then the other, then Ringo a-hard-days-night-paul-8

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Ringo for top guitarists? What?

"Now and then, though, someone does begin to grow differently. Instead of down, his feet grow up toward the sky. But we do our best to discourage awkward things like that."

"What happens to them?" insisted Milo.

"Oddly enough, they often grow ten times the size of everyone else," said Alec thoughtfully, "and I’ve heard that they walk among the stars."

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seaglass eyes sunny smile said:

a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Ringo for top guitarists? What?

the thing is, I don't know any other musicians a-hard-days-night-ringo-12

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