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Relatively new to McCartney--need some help.
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HermanJman
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9 May 2013 - 10.13pm

I haven't listened to some of the newer solo stuff by PM, but I always liked "Tug Of War" "Flowers In The Dirt" and the usual older Wings stuff. He did a song called "I've Had Enough" I think maybe it was on London Town, that I always felt was underrated. I think Dave Edmonds played on it. Another one I remember listening to on a cassette in my car back in the day was "Back To The Egg".  The first song was "Getting Closer", another underrated one.

I've seen where some have called John's solo work poor. It is kind of hit and miss, and I need to revisit "Walls And Bridges" and a few of them. Someone said that "Imagine" had only a couple of good tracks on it, I don't agree. To me, John's first two albums were both great. Imagine had tracks like "Gimme Some Truth", "Jealous Guy", "Oh, My Love" and "It's So Hard", not to mention the title track. Any album with those cuts has to be considered great, IMO..

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9 May 2013 - 10.33pm

Welcome HermanJman.

Very few people on this Forum mention Flowers In The Dirt, but in many ways this was designed to be a comeback album (he toured for the first time in over 10 years using this album as a springboard), and I think a lot of work went into it. There's some good stuff on it, including the McCartney-Elvis Costello stuff.

 

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10 May 2013 - 4.23pm

I've often thought that Paul's 80s output could have been infinitely better, if he'd only been a little more clued up about what kind of music was going on in underground circles in Britain at the time and not pandered to the charts as he is prone to doing. I recall watching a video from the Press To Play era where he's being interviewed by a teenager; the kid keeps asking him what kind of contemporary music he likes and he seems to struggle to name anyone other than 10cc. Bands like the Smiths, XTC and the Cure were garnering followings with a jangly indie sound which wasn't really too far removed from the early Beatles material, and if he had cottoned onto this then I think he could have made some decent stuff in the decade. He was on the right ground with McCartney II, Coming Up and more experimental, New Wave style material.

Instead, because Tug Of War was a major commercial success, he took that mushy overproduced synth-dance-pop and took it as far as he possibly could, even jumping on the Michael Jackson bandwagon; that, combined with a total lack of melodic and lyrical inspiration, damaged his street cred quite badly. That said, I do like some songs of the period, No More Lonely Nights in particular.

 

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21 May 2013 - 6.09pm

I finally heard Tug Of War.  I think I prefer Pipes Of PeacePipes Of Peace has more catchy songs on it, and I think there are one too many duets on Tug Of War.  I do, however, love Here Today.  It makes me cry when Paul sings "I love you."

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DrBeatle
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21 May 2013 - 6.47pm

Expert Textpert said
I finally heard Tug Of War.  I think I prefer Pipes Of PeacePipes Of Peace has more catchy songs on it, and I think there are one too many duets on Tug Of War.  I do, however, love Here Today.  It makes me cry when Paul sings "I love you."

I (and most other Paul fans) hold the opposite view, but I respect your opinion :) . The two albums were culled from the same sessions so it makes sense they're always linked together.
What did you think of "Take it Away" on Tug Of War? One of his finest singles, IMO, and one of my favorite Paul songs. Great video, too!

 

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22 May 2013 - 1.29am

DrBeatle said

Expert Textpert said
I finally heard Tug Of War.  I think I prefer Pipes Of PeacePipes Of Peace has more catchy songs on it, and I think there are one too many duets on Tug Of War.  I do, however, love Here Today.  It makes me cry when Paul sings "I love you."

I (and most other Paul fans) hold the opposite view, but I respect your opinion :) . The two albums were culled from the same sessions so it makes sense they're always linked together.
What did you think of "Take it Away" on Tug Of War? One of his finest singles, IMO, and one of my favorite Paul songs. Great video, too!

 

I thought that song was pretty good, but I didn't much care for the horn arrangement near the end.

I think So Bad and The Other Me are really awesome tracks.  I've been listening to those a lot.

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21 June 2013 - 8.05pm

Didn't make sense to start up a thread for this, so posting it here... this site came up with a list of eleven essential Paul McCartney albums in honor of his birthday. It includes Wings and Fireman as well as solo stuff.

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/p.....ey-albums/

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DrBeatle
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21 June 2013 - 8.12pm

Nice list...a few errors on there but overall a nice sampling. Weird that the highlights of Wings Over America (according to the list) are Richard Cory and Spirits of Ancient Egypt...two songs I almost always skip!

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22 June 2013 - 9.25pm

DrBeatle said

Expert Textpert said
I finally heard Tug Of War.  I think I prefer Pipes Of PeacePipes Of Peace has more catchy songs on it, and I think there are one too many duets on Tug Of War.  I do, however, love Here Today.  It makes me cry when Paul sings "I love you."

I (and most other Paul fans) hold the opposite view, but I respect your opinion :) . The two albums were culled from the same sessions so it makes sense they're always linked together.
What did you think of "Take it Away" on Tug Of War? One of his finest singles, IMO, and one of my favorite Paul songs. Great video, too!

 

"Take It Away" is almost my favorite McCartney song -- it's right up there.  It's truly an inspired song -- unlike most of the other schlock he wrote from the time after London Town to practically the present.  (I also greatly enjoy "Ballroom Dancing" from the Tug Of War album.)

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22 June 2013 - 11.52pm

Those are top songs. That's a great album apart from the Stevie Wonder duets. 

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23 June 2013 - 2.19am

Nonsense, "What's That You're Doing" is superb pop funk! Agree about "Ebony and Ivory" however.

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Funny Paper
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23 June 2013 - 10.38pm

Von Bontee said
Nonsense, "What's That You're Doing" is superb pop funk! Agree about "Ebony and Ivory" however.

I would go so far as to say it's "superb".  But it's somewhat entertaining.  I notice, and remember noticing when I first heard it so many years ago, that Stevie sings better than Paul on that song -- and it annoyed me, because I know Paul could out-do Stevie in vocal pyrotechnics; it's almost like Paul was holding back or his head had become so muddled by his pop schlock of late, he forgot his old raw self.

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24 June 2013 - 12.49pm

Funny Paper said

Von Bontee said
Nonsense, "What's That You're Doing" is superb pop funk! Agree about "Ebony and Ivory" however.

I would go so far as to say it's "superb".  But it's somewhat entertaining.  I notice, and remember noticing when I first heard it so many years ago, that Stevie sings better than Paul on that song -- and it annoyed me, because I know Paul could out-do Stevie in vocal pyrotechnics; it's almost like Paul was holding back or his head had become so muddled by his pop schlock of late, he forgot his old raw self.

Regardless of who likes or dislikes that song, can we all agree that it's too fuckin' long?

 

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15 July 2013 - 6.52pm

I now own all the Wings albums (some on digital only, as the CD's are extremely hard to find), and all of the McCartney albums except the following:

 

Brung to Ewe By
The Russian Album
Unplugged - The Official Bootleg
Paul is Live
Back in the World
Live in Los Angeles (Mail on Sunday)
iTunes Live from Capitol Studios
 
Thanks to everyone who made recommendations.  I prefer finding music the old fashioned way (by asking people) rather than streaming music on the Internet.  I guess you could say I'm a McCartney fan now.
 

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17 July 2013 - 9.12am

I'd say the ones you're missing are inessential anyway. Too many live albums, and the classical ones don't really do it for me. GENYC is a pretty good document of his current(ish) live show though, and I do have a soft spot for Unplugged.

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17 July 2013 - 9.14pm

Joe said
I'd say the ones you're missing are inessential anyway. Too many live albums, and the classical ones don't really do it for me. GENYC is a pretty good document of his current(ish) live show though, and I do have a soft spot for Unplugged.

I'll probably get a few more...maybe Give My Regards To Broad Street (so I can see what everyone's upset about), GENYC, Unplugged and the Russian album.

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18 July 2013 - 12.39am

There was also a collection that as far as I know fell through the cracks -- either it was never assembled or it was never formally issued, but supposedly there exist some bootleg tapes of some (or all) of the sessions:  I speak of a project Paul was going to put out called "Cold Cuts".

You might Google that and look on You Tube. 

 

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18 July 2013 - 12.54am

There a ton of bootlegs for Cold Cuts. Wiki has an entry on it.

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18 July 2013 - 4.32pm

Thanks, I'll add Cold Cuts to my list.

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