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Relatively new to McCartney--need some help.
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22 April 2013 - 4.21pm

 

Hello, all.  I'm kind of daunted by the amount of material out there, and I've read that in the late 70's and 80's there was a creative slump in McCartney's work (sorry to offend any hardcore fans unintentionally).  I used to dislike McCartney because he seemed silly to me with songs like Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da.  I'm probably not alone, I read that John Lennon felt the same way.

Anyway, I've found myself getting into McCartney and really liking him now.  I have "McCartney," as well as "Ram" and "Band On The Run."  I like all three, especially Ram.  I'm not interested in anything like "Wonderful Christmas Time" or "Say, Say, Say."

I don't want to buy everything. Can anyone help me out to know which albums are essential and which albums (or years) to avoid?

I've heard that McCartney II is good, as well as Flaming Pie, Venus And Mars, Chaos and Creation, and Red Rose Speedway.

I might add that I WILL buy everything by McCartney if my suspicions are wrong, but please, if you choose to answer, don't answer "Buy everything."

Thanks!

"This Beatles talk bores me to death." --John Lennon

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22 April 2013 - 4.41pm

I'm in a similar boat, as I was a Beatles fan, and took a hiatus after slogging through Paul's 80s offerings as long as I could. I'd heard that his music from the 2000s was much better, so I started listening to the albums on YouTube. A friend went through his catalog and recommended specific songs to me, so I made a YouTube playlist you might want to check out.

I'm also borrowing CDs from the library, so you might consider that option.

To your list of recommended albums, I would add Memory Almost Full.

parlance

 

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22 April 2013 - 4.53pm

I would also recommend "Back To The Egg." As I've written before on another thread, I think it's one of his more underrated albums. Enjoy exploring his music, Expert Texpert!

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22 April 2013 - 6.09pm

McCartney II would be a good one to check out, it has quite a few different sides to Paul and is a little on the experimental Paul side. Personally i love Wings At The Speed Of Sound and Wild LIfe but there are many who criticise both.

Chaos And Creation In The Backyard has got an excellent reputation but i havent heard it as i was mentally tortured and scarred by its predecessor Memory Almost Full.

As for what to avoid, Give My Regards To Broad Street would be first on my list: dreadful originals (excluding No More Lonely Nights) and awful pointless covers of Macca originals (Beatles and solo); followed by Press To Play and Memory Almost Full. Pipes Of Peace is very hit and miss.

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22 April 2013 - 6.50pm

Thanks to everyone who is posting.  I'm taking notes! And thanks, parlance, for the playlist. I'll check it out soon.

"This Beatles talk bores me to death." --John Lennon

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22 April 2013 - 6.55pm

It's too bad there aren't really any first-rate compilations of his material. Wingspan's about the best of them as far as I can tell, but it's got its flaws. It'd be really nice if there were some greatest-hits collection that covered the '90s and beyond; unfortunately there really aren't many actual hits there!

Ram is a must (particularly the 2-disc version) but I see you've already got that one. I second the McCartney II recommendation (again, particularly the expanded edition) but that's a pretty atypical McCartney album, which has as many detractors as fans (just read the dedicated thread here for proof!)

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
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22 April 2013 - 6.55pm

I'd throw Tug Of War into the mix. It's his first post-Lennon assassination album, and - apart from the obvious Here Today - there are references peppering the album about his lost friend and The Beatles. I find much in it to love and admire. Though it does have Ebony and Ivory going against it.

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22 April 2013 - 8.02pm

Dear Expert Texpert,

Sit you down....

At the end of the day it's a strictly personal choice. If I give you my favorites, you'll find that they include albums that others will tell you to avoid, while others that I see on this list are the ones that I would avoid.

The beauty of iTunes is that you can click around and decide for yourself. [The downside of iTunes is that some songs take a while to develop some songs represent a collage of songs, so clicking for a few seconds doesn't always work.]

Only Give My Regards To Broad Street has achieved some kind of consensus. Avoid it at all costs.

 

"Into the Sky with Diamonds" (the Beatles and the Race to the Moon – a history)

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22 April 2013 - 8.02pm

Everyone has different opinions, so it's difficult if not impossible to acquire a "science" fit especially for your taste.  The best one can do is what I do with movie reviews: they're nearly worthless unless I know the reviewer, or at least know what he likes.

Anyway, my 2 cents is that after Band On The Run, there is no good McCartney album as a whole album, even though there are many good songs to cherrypick among them.

For example, someone mentioned Memory Almost Full (2007)-- an album that has only two good songs on it (of course, in my opinion):

Dance Tonight

That Was Me.

(There is on the CD a bonus track called "222" that is very interesting because it's strange and in 7/4 time, but it doesn't quite rise to the level of a "good song".)

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22 April 2013 - 8.04pm

You're welcome. As you can see, no two people agree, and by the time you're done, you'll pretty much end up with "Buy Everything!" ;->

parlance

 

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Check out my fan video for Paul's song "Appreciate" at Vimeo or YouTube.

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22 April 2013 - 10.14pm

parlance said

You're welcome. As you can see, no two people agree, and by the time you're done, you'll pretty much end up with "Buy Everything!" ;->

parlance

 

...everything except "Broad Street"!

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
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22 April 2013 - 10.23pm

Von Bontee said

parlance said

You're welcome. As you can see, no two people agree, and by the time you're done, you'll pretty much end up with "Buy Everything!" ;->

parlance

 

...everything except "Broad Street"!

Oh God don't buy Broad Street paul-mccartney

 

 

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22 April 2013 - 11.06pm

AppleScruffJunior said

Von Bontee said

parlance said

You're welcome. As you can see, no two people agree, and by the time you're done, you'll pretty much end up with "Buy Everything!" ;->

parlance

 

...everything except "Broad Street"!

Oh God don't buy Broad Street paul-mccartney

 

LOL, agreed.

[Cue someone making the case for Broad Street in 3... 2...]

parlance

 

Beware of sadness. It can hit you. It can hurt you. Make you sore and what is more, that is not what you are here for. - George

Check out my fan video for Paul's song "Appreciate" at Vimeo or YouTube.

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22 April 2013 - 11.11pm

What?! Don't buy Broad Street?! How could you say such a thing?!

 

 

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22 April 2013 - 11.16pm

Egroeg Evoli said
What?! Don't buy Broad Street?! How could you say such a thing?!

 

 

...I don't actually know what it is. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

 

*shudders* Don't say we didn't warn you

 

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22 April 2013 - 11.38pm

LOL, years ago, before the current fandom resurgence, I had a conversation with a friend who declared that everything Paul McCartney did was perfect. No mediocre songs or projects, he can do no wrong. I took one look at her and said, "Give My Regards To Broad Street." And she said, "Dammit! I was hoping you wouldn't remember that one!"

parlance

Beware of sadness. It can hit you. It can hurt you. Make you sore and what is more, that is not what you are here for. - George

Check out my fan video for Paul's song "Appreciate" at Vimeo or YouTube.

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22 April 2013 - 11.42pm

Haha :P Somebody needed to tell Paul "if it's not broke don't fix it"

 

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22 April 2013 - 11.51pm

Exactly!

Or "...Don't BREAK it!", even!

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
-- Paul McCartney

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23 April 2013 - 12.19am

AppleScruffJunior said

Egroeg Evoli said
What?! Don't buy Broad Street?! How could you say such a thing?!

 

 

...I don't actually know what it is. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

 

*shudders* Don't say we didn't warn you

 

What... was... that... ? paul-mccartney

Also known as Egg-Rock, Egg-Roll, E-George, Eggy, Ravioli, Eggroll Eggrolli...

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23 April 2013 - 12.25am

Your worst nightmare!

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