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10 August 2011
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Depends on your definition of “granny s**t”
If you mean 20’s and 30’s music hall stuff, I don’t know that he’s written that many more such songs in his post-Beatle days unless you count his Kisses On The Bottom album which is 100% granny s**t.
The main granny s**t song would be “You Gave Me the Answer”
Now if you consider his facile songs – songs that took him 30 seconds to write [Smile Away , Follow Me, Freedom] – and/or his maudlin songs [With a Little Luck, No More Lonely Nights], then yes, there are many more of those. I think. It’s those songs that to this day cause him to have a saccharine reputation among many people, even though he rocks as much as anyone else.
a) he’s occasionally lazy
b) he figures he can get away with it
c) some people do like these songs
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2.47am
10 May 2013
Offline It’s not “granny s**t.” S**t is bad. Paul’s granny music is good.
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Offline There’s a serious attitude problem among rock fans over the decades — when they wrinkle their noses at Chicago, Paul McCartney , and James Taylor for being too soft; they need to go take a flying you-know-what off a short cliff. How did that Coke bottle get up their ass and when are they going to stop being such [substitute angry foul invectives here — oh, and make them “cool” and “hip” too for the brain dead retarded fashionista humps].
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Not a description – just an identifier. We all know it’s good (or most of us, anyways.)
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1 May 2011
Offline Its all subjective in the end and music isnt something to be pompous over (thats a generalistic comment and not aimed at anyone here).
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12.36pm
3 May 2012
Offline I like the vast majority of Paul’s music. I used the term ”granny s**t” as that’s what John called it (and is also the word that was being used before this thread died out). I don’t think it’s s**t.
ITSWD, I meant the general pop-y/written in under 10 minutes type of songs, not just the hall-esque (which I actually quite like).
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1 November 2012
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Considering Paul’s post-Beatles oeuvre, there are quite a few songs that I don’t particularly like (99% of them from Venus And Mars forward — with exceptions that prove the rule).
However, of the Paul songs which I don’t like, most happen to be rockish songs. He tends to never disappoint me when he indulges his poppish, folkish, and/or grannyish side (which is not to say I don’t love some of his great rockers — Helen Wheels, Junior’s Farm, Mumbo, Nineteen Hundred and Eighty-Five, Get On the Right Thing, Too Many People ; etc.)
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5 November 2011
Offline I love Paul’s “granny s**t” songs.
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4.39am
27 December 2012
Offline Finding it ironic that “Crippled Inside ” by John sound’s like granny s**t music to me.
8.56pm
3 May 2012
Offline ^^ John did quite a few songs that could be classed (in his own words) as that, which I, too, find ironic. In fact, he was writing similar stuff to Paul at the same time in some cases.
I’ve never really thought of ‘Martha, My Dear’ like that, even though I suppose it makes sense. I love that song so much so imo by no means was his ”Granny S**t” music s**t.
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2.54pm
18 April 2013
Offline I used to be in the “this is granny music camp.” Slowly but surely I have been converted to fandom. I actually enjoy Ebony And Ivory , Say Say Say, etc. My wife is still firmly in the OTHER camp. Yesterday in the car, I was playing some pop tunes by McCartney and my wife complained, “This is sappy! Can we listen to some music with testosterone?”
So I played some Lennon tunes and she was pacified. She especially enjoyed “Cold Turkey .”
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12.36am
20 May 2013
Offline Granny S**t Music? Still better than EVERYTHING Lennon wrote! I disagree that “Maxwell” was granny music…it’s a song about murder. It’s vaudeville! Don’t get me wrong, I love John Lennon but all he did was Rock ‘N’ Roll . Paul’s understanding of all types of music is what made him the better song-writer.
p.s. By the time the 70’s were wrapping up John’s Rock ‘N’ Roll was Grandpa music. His last two albums were out-dated. Paul was busy inventing the 80’s with McCartney II .
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1 May 2011
Offline John only did rock and roll? Erm Julia , This Boy , In My Life , Norwegian Wood , Jealous Guy , Bless You, Starting Over, Real Love , Imagine , Help , Im So Tired, Tomorrow Never Knows …. The list goes on and on.
Its the same stereotype as saying Paul only did ballads.
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5.11pm
1 November 2012
Offline Yes, meanmistermustard. Also, quite a few of John’s songs in his solo career were in the pop style, not rock, and some of them reflecting quite good craftsmanship.
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1 May 2011
Offline A plea.
I know that Rigby wasn’t saying it but can we avoid Paul is wonderful, John was s**t, or John was wonderful, Paul was s**t? They were both amazing all-rounders.
Paul wrote some excellent stuff, much better than what John wrote however John wrote some excellent stuff, much better than what Paul wrote (not sure that is a logically possibility but I stand by it).
And before im accused of being a Lennonist, im not. Im a Beatleist.
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1.33pm
3 May 2012
Offline Paul wrote some excellent stuff, much better than what John wrote however John wrote some excellent stuff, much better than what Paul wrote (not sure that is a logically possibility but I stand by it).
Are you saying that John wrote better than Paul? If so, I disagree. I don’t think you can compare, really, as they had different styles of songwriting once they moved away from the early love songs. They were both very talented in their own right, and I don’t even know how to begin to try and work out who was better. It’ll only cause an argument, anyway.
Lennon-McCartney are one of the best songwriting teams of all time for a reason. That reason is that they worked brilliantly together. They complemented each other in a way we’d never seen before them, and haven’t since.
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8 November 2012
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29 November 2012
Offline I agree, as we all do, that together they were a stunning partnership. I think it can be safe to say, though, that John needed Paul’s input more, on balance, than Paul needed John’s, once the Beatles broke up. And I base this not just on personal preference or the sheer volume of work Paul has produced (through no fault of John’s!) but based on the quality and the charts. Even if you go solely by the 1970s (which is when Paul was at his solo commercial peak anyway), Paul blows John away in terms of the hits he wrote in Wings and bookending the decade with solo albums (McCartney, Ram in 1970/71 and McCartney II , Tug Of War in 1980/82)
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18 April 2013
Offline Paul is more of an entertainer. John’s music is overall more serious.
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18 March 2013
Offline RIGBY said
Granny S**t Music? Still better than EVERYTHING Lennon wrote! I disagree that “Maxwell” was granny music…it’s a song about murder. It’s vaudeville! Don’t get me wrong, I love John Lennon but all he did was Rock ‘N’ Roll . Paul’s understanding of all types of music is what made him the better song-writer.
p.s. By the time the 70’s were wrapping up John’s Rock ‘N’ Roll was Grandpa music. His last two albums were out-dated. Paul was busy inventing the 80’s with McCartney II .
And “Give My Regards To Broad Street ” too, eh? That was a great album 
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