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Ahhh Girl
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12 September 2013 - 1.46am

I have a confession.

If the Beach Boys had sung "I wish they all could be Liverpudlian girls," I would be ticked off at them. I would feel like they were cheating on America with the UK. How wrong of me is that?

 

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12 September 2013 - 3.29am

mccartneyalarm said

Unquestionably, Funny Paper deserves all the glory with rewriting Beatles lyrics! (I do like Paper/Alarm or McFunny, though!...hilarious!) However, I must insist that we use my address on future collaborations so Paul can serve me personally with the copyright infringement lawsuit. I'll be happy to give you half or even 2/3 the credit, but I insist he puts the handcuffs on me! (giggle)

There's a coupla old threads devoted to rewriting Beatles classics! (I'm too lazy to look for 'em, sorry...) Great stuff from Zig, the m.i.a. Mr. Sun king, MeanMrs.M and others I can't remember.

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12 September 2013 - 7.38pm

Funny Paper said

mccartneyalarm said
Unquestionably, Funny Paper deserves all the glory with rewriting Beatles lyrics! (I do like Paper/Alarm or McFunny, though!...hilarious!) However, I must insist that we use my address on future collaborations so Paul can serve me personally with the copyright infringement lawsuit. I'll be happy to give you half or even 2/3 the credit, but I insist he puts the handcuffs on me! (giggle)

I heard Paul quit his job at the police department and got himself a steady job -- Bounty Hunter (he moonlights as a rock star).

There remains One That Got Away, however:

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and Sailor Sam,

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12 September 2013 - 8.55pm

cbatcu said 

 
Speaking of spewing...could someone enlighten me on the original story of Zig that started the comments I see everywhere on the forum that go like "I Zigged" "I pulled a Zig" "Unless you want to Zig"?

Sadly, this thread explains some of it...
http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo.....igtionary/

One of our former Mods, skye, is dryly hilarious. I would repeatedly make the mistake of reading her posts while drinking coffee. So, I would kid her that every time I spewed coffee while laughing, she owed me a new shirt, tie, keyboard, whatever. That is when the 'spit take' was defined as 'Zigging'.

It was a different time back then (3 whole years ago) - we were a simple people exhibiting simple humor. two-virgins

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Ahhh Girl
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23 November 2015 - 5.46pm

"All I gotta do,
Is call you on the phone,"

Would you Brits say "ring you" instead of "call you"?

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ewe2
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23 November 2015 - 6.21pm

Ahhh Girl said

I have a confession.

If the Beach Boys had sung "I wish they all could be Liverpudlian girls," I would be ticked off at them. I would feel like they were cheating on America with the UK. How wrong of me is that?

 

That is a very Australian question there! We often say "how wrong is that?!" But I guess that's because everyone just assumes America is the promised land. Perhaps if rock n' roll was big at the beginning of the 20th century, that wouldn't have seemed unusual since people still thought of the British Empire as the height of civilization then.

Ahhh Girl said

I think I've quit shaking with laughter enough to ask another question.

Why is Jojo from Tucson, Arizona? Along with that question, what's up with him going to California? I'm sure there are places over there with 6 and 4 syllables respectively.

Were they trying to please an American audience to sell more records?

According to Richard DiLello it's about Chris O'Dell who indeed moved from Tucson Arizona to California and ended up working in Apple (I'm not sure whether she worked with Derek Taylor in the music biz and came over).

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23 November 2015 - 6.22pm

I've always used variations on both, @Ahhh Girl. I'm more likely to say something like, "Call you later," if I'm expecting to contact someone soon. If it's more open-ended, I'll probably say, "I'll give you a ring." Even that, though, is often, "I'll give you a call."

EDIT: It should also be noted that All I've Got To Do is a John song, not Paul, so it wouldn't be a "Paul Americanism".

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Ahhh Girl
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23 November 2015 - 7.01pm

True. I digressed in Americanisms by The Beatles.

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23 November 2015 - 7.03pm

Paul isn't The Beatles. Is there thread for Beatles Americanisms?

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23 November 2015 - 7.47pm

Eh, I'm fine opening up this thread.

I was being too Paul-centric back when I started this thread.

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23 November 2015 - 9.19pm

Ahhh Girl said
"All I gotta do,
Is call you on the phone,"

Would you Brits say "ring you" instead of "call you"?

 

'Give you a bell' 'Call you later' most......'Ring you later' less so.

I still say, 'Pull the chain'......I haven't seen a toilet with a chain for years!

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24 November 2015 - 4.13am

Ahhh Girl said
"All I gotta do,
Is call you on the phone,"

Would you Brits say "ring you" instead of "call you"?

No. 

Who says "ring you"?

You ring the bell.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

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24 November 2015 - 8.30am

I still say 'ring you'.  But then I'm old!

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25 November 2015 - 9.48am

Does anybody's phone ring any more? With cell phones now being more the rule than the exception, wouldn't "I'll ring tone you*" be more appropriate?

*If you know one's phone is set on vibrate, "I'll vibrate you" could be a bit more...shall we say...excitingly anticipatory. ahdn_paul_02  

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25 November 2015 - 9.56am

^ a new twist on the meaning of Good Vibrations. Especially for us who carry their cell phone in their pocket. a-hard-days-night-george-4

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25 November 2015 - 10.03am

One time, I phoned a neighbor. She said she was on the other line and asked if she could call me back in five minutes. I said, "sure - I'll put my phone in my pocket, set to vibrate". When she called back, I answered, "Thank You!"  

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25 November 2015 - 11.28am

Ahhh Girl said
"All I gotta do,
Is call you on the phone,"

Would you Brits say "ring you" instead of "call you"?

They might say 'give you a ring', but 'call you' is correct as well.

I think many of the perceived Americanisms are actually quite common phrases in Liverpool. And, as has been said before, sometimes it just works better in a song.

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25 November 2015 - 6.42pm

JPM-Fangirl pointed out 

Ahhh Girl sang 
"All I gotta do,
Is call you on the phone,"

Would you Brits say "ring you" instead of "call you"?

They might say 'give you a ring', but 'call you' is correct as well.

I think many of the perceived Americanisms are actually quite common phrases in Liverpool. And, as has been said before, sometimes it just works better in a song.

Agreed-- for instance, while we Murricans tend to think everyone who lives on a British Isle refers to that talking, moving-picture screen thingy as 'telly', George and the other frequently refer to 'watching TV'. And anyway,  just try singing 'When I rang you up/ Your line's engaged'--it doesn't sing nearly as well. 

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25 November 2015 - 10.33pm

A Britishism that took me by surprise was calling TV the Teev, something picked up by a friend who lived in the UK for some time. I think it's a West County slang. I think "Sunday driver" in Day Tripper is US slang too, but it's probably not Paul's lyric, which goes to prove that perhaps Americanisms was a group thing?

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