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Red Rose Speedway
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5 November 2012
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The four-song eleven-minute medley at the end of Red Rose Speedway is a divisive piece- I've heard it slated into the ground for being boring, overlong, repetitive and saccharine, as well as woefully inadequate compared to the Abbey Road medley, but I rather enjoy sections of it and it is relentlessly melodic; I often get the entire suite stuck in my head. "Hold Me Tight " is fairly agonising, though; not only did Paul apparently forget he'd written a song with the exact same title ten years prior, but could he REALLY not have replaced the lyrics with something a little less lazy and insipid?

What's the forum's opinion on the record's finale?

SHUT UP - Paulie's talkin'

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Oh, that medley..."Hold Me Tight " really ruins it for me - "Power Cut" is all right, but by the time it rolls around, it's too late for me to get any enjoyment out of it. I really wonder if the double album Paul had originally planned wouldn't have worked out better.

Also, I've gotta say that "Red Rose Speedway " has one of the stupidest album covers I've ever seen! Especially compared with "Wild Life "'s lovely pastoralism. (But that's just my personal taste; I love the similar covers of John and Yoko's POB albums as well.)

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
-- Paul McCartney

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What's not to like?

 

Even the weakest link, Lazy Dynamite, has some great singing by Paul, and the chord transition to Hands of Love is so cool.  The "circle of fifths" chord structure with its offbeat variant of Hold Me Tight is a pleasure to listen to.  I could go on trying to articulate why I like the medley, but it seems silly, like trying to explain in scientific, psychological and philosophical detail why I like coconut ice cream.

 

It seems that some people have to find some kind of "greatness" or "depth" in a song to esteem it, and they forget the more elemental experience of enjoying it.  I find this whole medley quite enjoyable musically.  Sure, it doesn't rise to the level of the Abbey Road medley; but just because a nice vase of carnations isn't a Palace Rose Garden doesn't mean it's not good in its own right.

Faded flowers, wait in a jar, till the evening is complete... complete... complete... complete...

5 November 2012
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Hey, I don't necessarily need much depth! But I do like for a piece of music to strike me as tuneful. "Hold Me Tight " doesn't. Really, nothing about it makes me want to hear it again.

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
-- Paul McCartney

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It is extremely sickly, but the harmonies, general feel and production do pull it through for me, and it's worth waiting for the moment when all the themes come together with Paul's roars of "baby I love you!" at the end of Power Cut. Quite fond of the bouncy Hands of Love too- it's the first two sections, sadly, which make it more tedious than it needs to be.

SHUT UP - Paulie's talkin'

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I do like Lazy Dynamite and Power Cut a lot (the vocals and playing are really catchy), if they were available as separate songs they would be up there as great Paul songs. Cant stand Hold Me Tight as it goes nowhere yet lasts what seems a decade and the lyrics are awful, truly dreadful. Hands of Love gets annoying quickly especially that awful vocalised solo. Its a shame as with some thought it could have been a good ending to the album butI dont listen to Red Rose Speedway often anyway. there are some good songs but overall its just too low key, its missing a kick, some energy, for my liking.

Cant believe Paul has written 2 different tracks called Hold Me Tight and both are appalling.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of self to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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No.

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I guess I'm biased about liking "Hold Me Tight " because it's such fun to play bass notes along with --

 

A - Bb - Bm - Caug5 - C#m - D (dip down from D to A to F# to hit the following G)

 

G -- C -- F -- Bb -- Eb -- Ab -- Db -- Gb -- B -- E -- E7 (pause, back to A)

 

All the connecting notes a bass player can cook up to link from chord to chord is just so much fun!

 

P.S.: I never listen to the song without playing bass notes along with it.

Faded flowers, wait in a jar, till the evening is complete... complete... complete... complete...

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Ben Ramon's right: It's very bizarre how Paul could totally space on already using the title "Hold Me Tight ".

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The opening and closing tracks of this album still sends me into a dark room shivering with terror at the thought of such crap. If i never have to listen to that closing melody again i'll still want an apology from Paul at having put them out in the first place. I have grown to appreciate 'Little Lamb Butterfly' more but all that saves 'Single Pigeon' that its damn short whilst 'Loup...' is barely bearable. 

At one time this was going to be a double album yet it got skimmed down into one disc. 

This is the rejected album tracklist (removed songs in bold).

Side one
"Big Barn Bed"
"My Love"
"When the Night"
"Single Pigeon"

Side two
"Tragedy"
"Mama's Little Girl"
"Loup (1st Indian on the Moon)"
"I Would Only Smile"

Side three
"Country Dreamer"
"Night Out"
"One More Kiss"
"Jazz Street"

Side four
"I Lie Around"
"Little Lamb Dragonfly"
"Get on the Right Thing"
"1882" (live)
"The Mess I'm In" (live)

No abysmal medley there, pity the material that got dumped in the archives. All are out there if you want to hear them. Love 'I Would Only Smile'  with its really nice Denny Laine vocal, tho its not a rocker which may have been one reason (the other being it wasnt a Paul vocal) why it got ditched.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of self to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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Regarding the medley of songs……….

I only like Power Cut………But since my 'youth' I've always read the medley as a song for Linda…a song to that 'lazy' slow burning fuse of creativity and anger John……..another for Linda…….and Power Cut a song about and to all the other ex-Beatles.

My thinking is based on Power Cut.. representing the lights going out on the Beatles……'But who knows lads maybe the power could be put back on if we all reach out to each other.'

What made me see Power Cut in this way was hearing Paul call John George and Ringo's names out towards the end. 

Also it it stood to reason that after all the 'Too many People'……'How do You Sleep?' back stabbings Paul would sooner or later write something positive to the others.   The break up and missing his mates must have still been on his mind. Hence he's saying, he's happy enough being held tightly in the hands of love …….but 'I miss you buggars'

Anyway I wrote about this personal theory before and it's safe to say not everyone agrees. But hey!

 

Here's the medley…..

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@Wigwam, here is your former post on the topic. http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo.....-4/#p96243

and one of my responses on the following page. http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo.....-5/#p96330

You still haven't gone to that "House for the Bemused" yet. Thankfully.

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Ahhh Girl said
@Wigwam, here is your former post on the topic. http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo.....-4/#p96243

and one of my responses on the follow page. http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo.....-5/#p96330

You still haven't gone to that "House for the Bemused" yet. Thankfully.

No but the Drs are telling me they can often hear talking emanating from my testicles…...So I may be talking complete 'you know what'…….but thanks Ahhh for digging it out.

I can still hear a two syllable word…..It could be 'Yeah Bingo' or…..'Yeah Bongo' or even, 'Yeah Necko' but he wouldn't leave his mate Ringo out after clearly saying 'I love you…..John'…….and 'I love ….George'

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Bongo could be Paul's touching reference to their '63 Morecambe and Wise appearance where Eric calls Ringo Bongo (note George's walk over to the other's at 7:03). 

I never hear the call outs to Paul's ex's but then i'm too busy banging my head with the oven door trying to get it to close tighter.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of self to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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meanmistermustard said
Bongo could be Paul's touching reference to their '63 Morecambe and Wise appearance where Eric calls Ringo Bongo (note George's walk over to the other's at 7:03). 

I never hear the call outs to Paul's ex's but then i'm too busy banging my head with the oven door trying to get it to close tighter.

You're depressed too…….??

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Only when hearing that crap medley.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of self to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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meanmistermustard said

I never hear the call outs to Paul's ex's but then i'm too busy banging my head with the oven door trying to get it to close tighter.

Stick your feet in ice………...

 

On average you'll feel all right.

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Atlas said

meanmistermustard said

I never hear the call outs to Paul's ex's but then i'm too busy banging my head with the oven door trying to get it to close tighter.

Stick your feet in ice………...

 

On average you'll feel all right.

If i stick my head in the ice will it block out the medley?

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of self to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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Great cover, weak album. I actually like "Big Barn Bed" but I think it would have been better suited as the outro to a song than a song in itself.

I'm pretty sure I'm practically the only one, but I always liked "One More Kiss" - probably the melody and the chord progression. Except for little fragments here and there, there's really nothing else I'd put on a playlist.

"Into the Sky with Diamonds" (the Beatles and the Race to the Moon – a history)

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meanmistermustard said

Atlas said

meanmistermustard said

I never hear the call outs to Paul's ex's but then i'm too busy banging my head with the oven door trying to get it to close tighter.

Stick your feet in ice………...

 

On average you'll feel all right.

If i stick my head in the ice will it block out the medley?

Whatever you do………..

I'll be Bach!!

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