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23 March 2012
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Note by Ahhh Girl 30 August 2014: This thread began life as a conversation about the *upcoming* Ram remaster. Then, after the album was released, “coming soon” was dropped from the original title of “Ram remastered coming soon”. The conversation broadened into a discussion about the songs, the album, issues surrounding the album, and members’ thoughts and reactions to the songs. The thread is now re-titled “Ram “.

It was announced a few days ago that Ram is to be released in the US on May 22nd and everywhere else May 21st.

There will be the standard cd, a special edition 2cd set, a deluxe 4cd + book + dvd edition, Mono Vinyl 1 Lp, and Stereo Vinyl 2 Lp, and some are already listed on Amazon. As with the earlier remasters in the series the downloads will be available in hi-resolution audio (limited and unlimited). Plus if its the same as it was with McCartney II you’ll be able to download all the music at Paul McCartney ‘s official online store without having to buy the all in music, dvd and book package and spend a fortune.

 

The tracklisting and further information (as taken from Wogblog)

Ram Deluxe details

RAM Deluxe 4CD/DVD
 
CD1: Ram (remastered)
1. Too Many People 2. 3 Legs 3. Ram On 4. Dear Boy 5. Uncle Albert /Admiral Halsey 6. Smile Away 7. Heart Of The Country 8. Monkberry Moon Delight 9. Eat At Home 10. Long Haired Lady
11. Ram On 12. The Back Seat Of My Car .
 
CD2: Bonus tracks (remastered)
1. Another Day 2. Oh Woman , Oh Why 3. Little Woman Love 4. A Love For You (Jon Kelly remix) 5. Hey Diddle (Dixon Van Winkle mix) 6. Great Cock And Seagull Race (Dixon Van Winkle mix) 7. Rode All Night 8. Sunshine Sometime (earliest mix)
 
CD3: Ram Mono (remastered)
1. Too Many People 2. 3 Legs 3. Ram On 4. Dear Boy 5. Uncle Albert /Admiral Halsey 6. Smile Away 7. Heart Of The Country 8. Monkberry Moon Delight 9. Eat At Home 10. Long Haired Lady. 11. Ram On 12. The Back Seat Of My Car .
 
As a promotional strategy when the album was new, McCartney decided to make separate mono mixes of each track on the album, designed specifically for AM radio airplay and send out a promotional album in very limited quantities to radio stations that were not broadcasting in stereo. As with some earlier Beatles mono albums, these were not simple fold downs of the stereo tracks but actually were unique mixes that in some cases differed considerably from their stereo commercially released counterparts.
 
CD4: Thrillington (remastered)
1. Too Many People 2. 3 Legs 3. Ram On 4. Dear Boy 5. Uncle Albert /Admiral Halsey 6. Smile Away 7. Heart Of The Country 8. Monkberry Moon Delight 9. Eat At Home 10. Long Haired Lady 11. Back Seat Of My Car.
 
This CD is an instrumental cover version of Paul and Linda McCartney’s album, Ram . Arranger Richard Hewson was asked to arrange the orchestration before Ram had yet been released and it was recorded in June 1971—with McCartney as producer—and with an intended release shortly thereafter. When it finally saw release in 1977, McCartney invented the fictitious socialite Percy Thrillington , and even took out ads in various UK music papers announcing Thrillington ‘s so-called comings and goings to generate curiosity and interest. The album was released under the pseudonym of Percy “Thrills” Thrillington , and sold very little, making it an instant rarity. “Thrillington ” was issued on CD in 1995 and 2004.
 
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Ramming (documentary of album); Heart Of The Country ; 3 Legs ; Hey Diddle; Eat At Home ; On Tour; + a selection of “Now Hear This” jingles.
On a personal note i find the mono Ram to be a far better listen than the stereo, before i thought the album was good but after hearing the mono on bootleg – wow. Totally lifted the album to another level.
 
And just like with new Beatles releases and Apple, it appears that Paul’s remaster plan is going to be drawn out over years but well worth the wait.
 
(No idea about finance tho with Beatles dvds and now this.)
 

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23 March 2012
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Looks like the deluxe one is the one worth getting. If it’s anything like the other deluxe reissues, though, it’ll be hugely expensive. Shame that’s the only way to get Thrillington and the mono mixes (apart from dodgy sites, of course).

I’ll probably get the special edition, as I did with the others in the McCartney Archive Collection.

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23 March 2012
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I got all the music for McCartney II (all 3 cds worth) from Pauls site without having to buy the book and dvd, cost something like £20 (still a bit more than i would like to pay but far better value than paying £80 or whatever it is for a glamourous book and a dvd i’ll rarely watch (and if i do have any desire to see any part of it it will be on youtube)).

I would imagine Ram will be the same.

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23 March 2012
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Unbearably excited! Unlike you curmudgeons (said with all theheartpossible, of course), I’ll be shelling out the money for the Grand Superior Deluxe Edition. I can’t help it…I’m such a sucker when it comes to Paul!

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19 May 2012
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I’ve got it from iTunes, some new songs are good and the remastering is very very good (much better than the old cd)

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The isolated tracks of Monkberry Moon Delight (consisting of 1. Drums, bass. 2. Piano. 3 Guitar. 4 Vocals) have been added to Paul’s Rude Studio where you can make your own mixes.

Thay are subsequently doing the rounds outside of Paul’s Rude studios.

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20 May 2012
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That’s really cool, didn’t know that. God I’d love to be inside Rude Studios, or just visit High Park Farm in general, would be amazing to think that Paul and Linda just hung out around there writing that great music for Ram and having a lovely time with the family.

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Monkberry Moon Delight in Rude Studios.  Hopefully it displays better for you than it does for me.

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Does the digital deluxe package download from Pauls site contain the mono mixes + the thrillington album? They are listed on the main section but when not when you select ‘show contents’ (after ‘buy&#39a-hard-days-night-george-10 it lists the following (no mono or Thrillington ):
 
 
RAM: Deluxe Digital Album (includes video & bonus tracks)
RAM: Remastered Digital Album + Bonus Audio + Digital-Only Bonus Tracks
AUDIO TRACKS:

Too Many People (2012 Remaster) – 3 Legs (2012 Remaster) – Ram On (2012 Remaster) – Dear Boy (2012 Remaster) – Uncle Albert /Admiral Halsey (2012 Remaster) – Smile Away (2012 Remaster) – Heart Of The Country (2012 Remaster) – Monkberry Moon Delight (2012 Remaster) – Eat At Home (2012 Remaster) – Long Haired Lady (2012 Remaster) – Ram On (2012 Remaster) – The Back Seat Of My Car (2012 Remaster) – Another Day (2012 Remaster) – Oh Woman , Oh Why (2012 Remaster) – Little Woman Love (2012 Remaster) – A Love For You (Jon Kelly Mix) (2012 Remaster) – Hey Diddle (Dixon Van Winkle Mix) (2012 Remaster) – Great Cock and Seagull Race (Dixon Van Winkle Mix) (2012 Remaster) – Rode All Night (2012 Remaster) – Sunshine Sometimes (Earliest Mix) (2012 Remaster) – Eat At Home / Smile Away (Live in Groningen 1972) (2012 Remaster) – Uncle Albert Jam (2012 Remaster)

RAM: Videos
VIDEOS:

3 Legs : Video – Eat At Home (On Tour): Video – Heart Of The Country : Video

FILES:

– Hey Diddle: Video

 
If im just getting the album and bonus tracks i might as well go to amazon.
 
And i just being daft (im very tired after a late night and early morning)?

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That’s right – if you look at the track listing on http://store.paulmccartney.com…..am/gbp.php it says the mono and Thrillington are physical release only.

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But then why a different price if your getting the same as the normal double edition? Pauls site could be a bit clearer.

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Disks 1 and 2 (though the wrong way around) are now availible on Spotify.

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So you can only get Ram Mono and Thrillington if you pay £65.49 at Pauls site or go elsewhere, break the law, and get it for free. Yet the music companies complain about piracy and illegal downloading and how its ruining the business. Whats forcing fans to go there is stupid expensive prices.

Why cant you download these all the tracks for say £22, which was an option for McCartney 2, and be happy. Not everyone can afford to pay £2600 for all Pauls Remasters if this is the way forward and folk would be happy to do without all the extra bits and pieces if they could just get the music.

 

And this is not just a moan here, have also emailed TopspinMedia about this.

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Listened to RAM, UA/AP is positively joyous!!!

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Topspins email reply consisted of “Thanks for the email and we appreciate your feedback. I am sorry the two albums are not offered as digital downloads, we are unable to provide any additional content or information at this point. If we come across any information, I will let you know as soon as possible.”

 

Wonderfully insightful.  

 

Might well have written

 

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Recently been listening to Ram again, what with all the re-hype (pitchfork gave it a generous 9.2 rating; the album cover is plastered up all over my city). I really can’t get over how good it is; like all the Beatles albums I could listen to it again and again and never get tired. The instrumentation, harmonies, wacky lyrics… it’s just marvellous.

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Gave up on this. Sorry but if Paul expects me to pay a fortune for 2 albums (i dont care for the filler however nice it is) then he’s wrong (you can get the regular cd and bonus disc for less than a tenner). Yes its been over a month and im still annoyed by it.

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Right you are. This release sounds intriguing indeed – those bonus tracks! – but as usual I’m irritated by the fact that (a) the record didn’t need a re-(re-re?)master in the first place (my 2003 edition sounds just fine thanks), (b) the bonus tracks could’ve easily been appended to the regular album, rather than necessitating the need for a “special” 2-disc version, and (c) I’m gonna hate the packaging (those cheap useless EMI cardboard sleeves where you gotta slide out the discs and hope you don’t scratch them, grr!).

Sorry Paul – I’d really like to hear those previously unreleased bonus tracks but I’m not gonna buy this redundancy unless I can find it used or on sale for like under $10 (or if my perfectly playable 2003 edition gets broken or stolen.) Until then I’ll just find the bonus tracks online somewhere.

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Jon Landau was always a mediocre writer and an clueless “rock” fan later turned lousy record producer! (Ruined the MC5’s “Back In The USA” album.) He had no idea about the new developments in rock after, like, 1968. That review (which I’ve had the misfortune to read several times before) is a cavalcade of RONG!

(Anyway, if he thought “Ram ” was awful, just wait until he heard “Wild Life “!)

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You should read his dumb liner notes for the first Nazz album – full of gems like “…their hard rock is the hardest of the hard!”

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