5.36am
7 November 2022
My belated report -- about the guy who supposedly was at the epicenter of the beginning of the Paul is dead rumor, Dartanyan Brown. I finally located him on substack and asked him about it, which you can see from my screenshot here. Unfortunately, I sent him this message over a year ago, in December of 2024, and he never responded to me.
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2.25am
4 September 2019
Sea Belt said
My belated report -- about the guy who supposedly was at the epicenter of the beginning of the Paul is dead rumor, Dartanyan Brown. I finally located him on substack and asked him about it, which you can see from my screenshot here. Unfortunately, I sent him this message over a year ago, in December of 2024, and he never responded to me.
As hard as it is to take anything about this story seriously, maybe he doesn't want to reveal his sources?
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7 November 2022
Yes, it could be that Dartanyan Brown doesn't want to talk about this issue for various reasons that could even lead to some kind of nefarious conspiracy where he is complicit in hiding something about those old days.
Or, maybe he just doesn't remember the details, or maybe he doesn't want some stranger like me pestering him with some question about when he was a teenager because he's got better things to do now with his own life. Nevertheless, I'm not entirely satisfied and I won't entirely rule out my first suspicion above.
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6.06am
4 September 2019
Sea Belt said
Yes, it could be that Dartanyan Brown doesn't want to talk about this issue for various reasons that could even lead to some kind of nefarious conspiracy where he is complicit in hiding something about those old days.Or, maybe he just doesn't remember the details, or maybe he doesn't want some stranger like me pestering him with some question about when he was a teenager because he's got better things to do now with his own life. Nevertheless, I'm not entirely satisfied and I won't entirely rule out my first suspicion above.
Or maybe he's afraid that someone who is interested in this story is some kind of kook
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5.10am
7 November 2022
Joe quotes Paul on "With A Little Help From My Friends " --
...the song is sung by a certain ‘Billy Shears’. For those old enough to remember, Billy Shears was the name of the person who supposedly replaced me in The Beatles when I’d ‘died’ after a road accident in 1966. That was a crazy rumour that had been doing the rounds. Now Billy Shears showed up, large as life, in the guise of Ringo Starr !
Paul makes it sounds like the rumor was "doing the rounds" in 1967 (when they recorded the song, early 1967), but didn't the rumors only start in 1969?
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In September 1966, Tony Barrow, the press officer of the Beatles, started receiving calls from various journalists of the British press, who were concerned about the well-being of Paul McCartney . Rumours had started spreading that Paul was dead. Barrow became suspicious and called Paul to check if he was okay; he never discovered how the rumour started.
https://www.beatlesbible.com/1.....his-death/
In 1969, the rumor went explosive internationally with that phone call to the Detroit radio station.
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3.44am
7 November 2022
My impression I described in an email to Dartanyan Brown, one of the participants:
the first writer (Tim Harper) broaching this topic way back in the day (I think 1970?) apparently had gotten the story from you.
As Joe from the Beatles Bible website puts it:
"Harper later claimed that he wasn’t the original source for any of the claims in his articles. He said he was writing for entertainment
purposes only, and said he got the information from a fellow student, Dartanyan Brown. Mr Brown is said to have got the story from a
musician who had heard it on the Californian west coast, and that he also read the story in an underground newspaper."
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Not that I believed any of this; but one of my favorite clues purported that if you turned the MMT cover upside down, the word "Beatles" revealed a telephone number (537-1438) that you could supposedly call to learn the full details of Paul's death.
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21 February 2024
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Not that I believed any of this; but one of my favorite clues purported that if you turned the MMT cover upside down, the word :Beatles" revealed a telephone number (537-1438) that you could supposedly call to learn the full details of Paul's death.
Would that work long-distance from New York? Montreal?
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1.04am
7 November 2022
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https://www.the-paulmccartney-.....circulate/In September 1966, Tony Barrow, the press officer of the Beatles, started receiving calls from various journalists of the British press, who were concerned about the well-being of Paul McCartney . Rumours had started spreading that Paul was dead. Barrow became suspicious and called Paul to check if he was okay; he never discovered how the rumour started.
https://www.beatlesbible.com/1.....his-death/
In 1969, the rumor went explosive internationally with that phone call to the Detroit radio station.
I found that Tony Barrow book and read that passage at greater length. From his account, it seems the 1966 "rumors" were just a spate of calls from "Fleet Street" inquiring as to Paul's "health", with one call directly asking if he was dead. Barrow says he then phoned Paul at his London home but didn't tell him why he was calling, and ended up "babbling" for ten minutes to cover up the fact that he just wanted to check to see everything was okay. Barrow also doesn't mention whether he ever told any of the Beatles, and doesn't say it ever expanded beyond a momentary flurry (a few days, or a week or two at the most). Barrow also says that rumors about all the Beatles having ill health or even dying was quite common, though this particular "spate" seemed unusual because of so many calls (a dozen in one afternoon).
This seems to be a different phenomenon than what came later in 1969, where it became international and became a "thing". So my previous question still stands; either Paul is doing his annoyingly characteristic fudging due to poor memory or whatever, conflating the first brief spate of rumors (which he didn't know about till Barrow wrote his book perhaps) -- or something else is going on.
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