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The 'Paul is dead' myth
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25 January 2018
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@Pineapple Records: this is the first interview that 'Faul' ever gave (apparently,he was wearing a wig in this interview):

 

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Yes I saw "Paul McCartney Really Is Dead..." . And I linked it in comments here, but in case anyone missed it and cares, I even kind of "live blogged" as I was watching it. I have the video linked there too, still works if you want to see it and laugh. 

My blog post: https://hippie-chick.livejourn.....84595.html

 

I also "live blogged" one called "The Winged Beatle". The video is also linked there and still watchable. These are fun if nothing else. LOL

 

"The Winged Beatle": https://hippie-chick.livejourn.....84429.html

 

So check those out for my thoughts as it happened, so to speak. paul-mccartney-thumb_gif

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@Father McKenzie -- yes I'm pretty much familiar with all those details. That picture of Paul with the disguise ("the only one in 1966") reminded me that he worse a similar get-up in one episode of an extended video he did with Linda in the late 70s (maybe 80s) doing various skits based on his songs.  As for "Forge", he and "Fingo" should have recorded an album...

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@The Hippie Chick: thanks for the links. I couldn't see the first one,as a log in screen appeared,but I read the 2nd one. I've watched the Winged Beatle a number of times. The whole thing fascinates me. It's crazy. I picked up on the Derek Taylor thing too. He says he's not aware of the death symbolisms etc,but then agrees with the guy that there's a grave scene on Pepper. Hmmmm....

In my opinion, someone with very close links to Apple/the Beatles made that video. I've even read that Paul himself made it, and that he is 'Iamaphoney',along with Ian Iachimoe,The Fireman,Percy Thrillington etc. The whole thing is just weird. 

I also agree with what you said about the Your Mother Should Know picture on my post above. How could they run out of red flowers? Surely, whoever was in charge knew that there were 4 Beatles lol. 

I was 'PID' YouTube surfing earlier (obsessed much?) and I came across a series of videos called Sheeple. There's no sound,video etc, it's just pics and writing. One of these videos said that Stella is Jane Asher's daughter, and that Mary and Nancy Shevell look like twins. Some crazy stuff going round, I know that for sure. Here's an example of one of these videos:

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=.....wFoGltvKBI

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@Father McKenzie, thanks for the "Faul" interview. It would be nice to compare that with a previous interview as recent to that date as possible (I guess mid 1966), to compare their speech patterns, cadence, mannerisms.  Maybe I'm letting PID memes infect my brain, but in this 67 interview, he does seem subtly different from what I have seen of pre-67 Paul (admittedly, it's from memory and I haven't seen anything pre-67 of Paul as close and long as this interview).

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@The Hippie Chick -- me too! I'd like to see your blog but I couldn't figure out how to log in!

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@Pineapple Records: you're welcome. How about this from May '66?

 

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@Pineapple Records: this one is better. There's no video on the previous one paul-mccartney-facepalm_gif:

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=.....PCDfQ1pRSk

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The trouble with this garbage fantasy is that it gets so stretched to include anything. The Yesterday and Today album was released on 20 June 1966, before Paul's supposed death. Hell, before their last tours! The main figure on the cover of Oldies is just a generic figure in the style of much Swinging London artwork at the time. The Very Together album was released after the PiD nonsense started, and was a collection of the Sheridan recordings put out by Polydor - so unless those involved in the "secret" brought more people in on the "truth", and people they didn't know at that, then it's just a simple cash-in on the fantasy.

The truth is the only Faul in this conspiracy is anyone who believes it.

This is just 47 pages of wasted words and time. Yes, mildly interesting for the insanity of the world it reveals, but nothing credible, and I've seen nothing new since I first read about in the '80s. Just the same straw house time and time again, with believers trying to convince everyone it's made of bricks.

Even ridiculing it seems more effort than it's worth.

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Father McKenzie said
@Pineapple Records: this one is better. There's no video on the previous one paul-mccartney-facepalm_gif:

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=.....Q1pRSk  

Thanks again Father McKenzie; however I think this second video is of a different interview -- not only do I not hear the same stuff, but it has lots of interruptions from press and the other 3 Beatles, whereas the first video sounds like Paul all alone and no questioner audible.  The first video is the better one because it's more like that 67 interview you posted earlier.

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Following on Ron Nasty's post, not that I study this phenomenon extensively (for on thing, I for the most part agree with Ron Nasty, though not wholly), I've noticed more push-back from non-PIDers. When you go to comments sections of PID YouTubes, I see defenders of Paul standing up to the PIDers more than I used to.

Imagine a future scenario where PIDers became an international movement and they hold public demonstrations and then defenders of Paul come out and heckle them, then they get into fights and the police have to separate them -- could be the seed of a Netflix movie...

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Not much to add to what Ron Nasty had to say. The whole thing is a drag. There's one thing I do want to address, though, before I go back into hiding...

Re: black flowers and stuff: John answered that question in one of his many interviews. To paraphrase: 'Paul did this thing where he'd look almost straight, but he'd have one ear painted blue'. He goes on to give examples of how they each would pull stunts to see if anyone noticed, such like wear a plastic bag over one shoe, or just some random silly thing to stand out.

And when you pay attention, you see that they did indeed each have those moments where they did something different. Be it George wearing a polo neck (turtleneck to you Yanksa-hard-days-night-george-10) before the others, Ringo's hair being longer, John suddenly wearing his glasses, et cetera. There's a long list of examples if you look for them.

Paul, it would seem, always had the most obvious tendency to stand out. Everyone looks away from the camera? Paul looks straight at it. Everyone is slouching? He's standing up straight. Let's face it: he's always been an attention whore... paul-mccartneySo, with that in mind, it starts to make perfect sense that he'd distinguish himself by wearing an unusual flower, or taking his shoes off, or doing whatever he did just to make people notice him. It's not his best trait but that's just Paul. Like Mary said: 'sometimes dad just needs the adulation'.

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The trouble with this garbage fantasy is that it gets so stretched to include anything. The Yesterday and Today album was released on 20 June 1966, before Paul's supposed death. Hell, before their last tours! The main figure on the cover of Oldies is just a generic figure in the style of much Swinging London artwork at the time. The Very Together album was released after the PiD nonsense started, and was a collection of the Sheridan recordings put out by Polydor - so unless those involved in the "secret" brought more people in on the "truth", and people they didn't know at that, then it's just a simple cash-in on the fantasy.

The truth is the only Faul in this conspiracy is anyone who believes it.

This is just 47 pages of wasted words and time. Yes, mildly interesting for the insanity of the world it reveals, but nothing credible, and I've seen nothing new since I first read about in the '80s. Just the same straw house time and time again, with believers trying to convince everyone it's made of bricks.

Even ridiculing it seems more effort than it's worth.  

Totally agree. I honestly find it shocking and disrespectful for so many reasons: 

some people who claim to be Beatles fans believe in the PID theory. I honestly can't understand how they can be Beatles fans AND also believe paul mccartney died. I really can't understand how people believe that someone like paul mccartney can be replaced: they had to find someone who looked EXACTLY like him, same look, same mannerism, same voice, same tone, but most importantly: same amazing talent, same genius. It's so disprespectful because it's like believing that you can find someone like Paul on the street....it took 50 years to find a band like The Beatles, and 3 minutes to replace Paul McCartney ?

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Not much to add to what Ron Nasty had to say. The whole thing is a drag. There's one thing I do want to address, though, before I go back into hiding...

Re: black flowers and stuff: John answered that question in one of his many interviews. To paraphrase: 'Paul did this thing where he'd look almost straight, but he'd have one ear painted blue'. He goes on to give examples of how they each would pull stunts to see if anyone noticed, such like wear a plastic bag over one shoe, or just some random silly thing to stand out.

And when you pay attention, you see that they did indeed each have those moments where they did something different. Be it George wearing a polo neck (turtleneck to you Yanksa-hard-days-night-george-10) before the others, Ringo's hair being longer, John suddenly wearing his glasses, et cetera. There's a long list of examples if you look for them.

Paul, it would seem, always had the most obvious tendency to stand out. Everyone looks away from the camera? Paul looks straight at it. Everyone is slouching? He's standing up straight. Let's face it: he's always been an attention whore... paul-mccartneySo, with that in mind, it starts to make perfect sense that he'd distinguish himself by wearing an unusual flower, or taking his shoes off, or doing whatever he did just to make people notice him. It's not his best trait but that's just Paul. Like Mary said: 'sometimes dad just needs the adulation'.  

Good post. I'm not a believer in PID,but it does fascinate me, it's weird to explain. 

Just on what you said about Paul taking his shoes off: one thing that always bugged me about that (and again, I don't believe he's dead) is his reason for doing it. The Winged Beatle video mentioned in @the-hippie-chicks post above has a clip in it where Paul is being interviewed,(I think by Letterman,I could be wrong)in which he says that the reason he took his flip flops off was because it was a hot day. I remember the first time I watched that clip, I had to rewind that part, just to be sure I didn't mishear him. Surely,with it being so hot,that alone would have been a reason to keep them on? Wouldn't his bare feet burn on the tarmac? If he'd said something like "I took them off because I thought it was a quirky thing to do, and I thought it'd look good for the cover shot" I'd have bought that explanation. But he didn't. His explanation, and justification for doing it,just sounded weak to me.

 

But,on the other hand,he probably knew that it would give people something to talk about, and as you said,it was a way of getting him noticed by peoplepaul-mccartney-thumb_gif

 

One thing I always liked was the Magical Mystery Tour cover, and the whole 'who was the walrus' thing. The guy top right (I think it's Ringo) is wearing John's granny glasses. John would have probably loved messing with people like that, especially because he was probably fed up at answering stuff on PID,so, like later on with Glass Onion ,he threw little clues like that out.

 

@Pineapple Records yeah,I posted that 2nd video so you could compare his mannerisms etc from the 'Pepper' era Paul video at the top. This video went a bit grainy though,which is a shame. 

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@Father McKenzie and @Pineapple Records    You can try it again, I realized I didn't have that one public, it is now. paul-mccartney-thumb_gif

 

And wow about Stella! I think she looks SO much like Linda, and that "Jane is her mother" theory is just silly. 

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@The-Hippie-Chick: thanks, I'll have a look now.

As for the Sheeple videos: yeah, they're a bit strange to say the least. The video I posted is typical of the rest of the Sheeple videos from what I can gather. A lot of random strange stuff,but interesting nonetheless paul-mccartney-thumb_gif

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@the-hippie-chick: try this one (Paul is not dead because he never existedahdn_paul_01):

 

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@The Hippie Chick: my previous @ didn't work, hopefully this one does a-hard-days-night-george-10:

That was a good read. I agree totally on the narrator of the film not being George,he sounds nothing like him. 

 

Just on Pepper: you're right. The guy with raised hand is Issy Bonn (Crane is right behind Bonn's hand,but visible). Did you also hear about Paul's school rugby trophy,seen between the L and E letters in the red BEATLES? Apparently,the rugby trophy looks like a letter I,which would make BEATLES read BEATLIES,which has a double meaning (lies as in keeping the death secret, and lies as in Paul's body lies in the ground: which would fit with the yellow guitar in flowers at the bottom,so it would read BEATLIES Paul?)

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Well, 'hot' obviously means something else to an Englishman than say, an Australian or an American (which, being a Scouser, you ought to know). It was approximately 25 degrees Celsius on the day of the Abbey Road photo shoot. That is, at the hottest time of day, which would have been 2-3 hours after the actual shoot. Also, you can tell there was a breeze, so it can't have been more than 20-22 Celsius when they took the photos. I have tested the theory last summer on a slightly warmer day than that August in 1969 and the asphalt was tepid. So, there goes the PID theory that it's impossible to walk barefooted on the road.

There are several possible explanations for it. Paul did wear his sandals the first few times they crossed. Maybe it was decided they looked too out of place. Maybe he thought it would look cool. Maybe he never even thought about it (according to Peter Asher, Paul would take his shoes off whenever he got the chance). There's a good chance the whole 'it was hot' explanation was just to give an answer and be done with it, just like he's made up that 'full moon' story to explain why he came off his moped in 1965. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't remember what really happened in either of those instances. Or maybe he'd rather not say.

Maybe he's telling the truth when he blames the heat. Let's not forget that out of the four, Paul always sweat more profusely than the others. You can clearly see it pouring down his face at concerts, when the others were only just getting flustered. So, it's entirely plausible he had sweaty feet. I personally hate it when I wear flip flops and my feet begin to sweat. It makes me constantly feel as if they're going to fly off at the next step. Not to mention the irritation between my toes... I'm not saying that's absolutely what happened. I just think people are focusing way too much on irrelevant things.

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P.S. the MMT cover isn't much of a mystery at all. It's Paul on the left. You can tell by the black trousers and the fact that his watch is on his right wrist. George is in the middle, Ringo on the right (orange trousers), and it's John in the walrus suit. I heard it said recently that the walrus supposedly is a death symbol in some cultures (they mentioned Dutch culture as an example). Well, I am Dutch and NO FUCKING WAY is the walrus a symbol of anything here. It isn't a death symbol anywhere! But, as we established before, PID is never deterred by that. It's true because they say it is, and that's enough for them...

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