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Into the Sky with Diamonds
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20 August 2012 - 4.48am

Some McCartney songs simply haven't appeared on any studio albums (B-sides, charity releases, unreleased altogether...).

I just discovered "Simple As That" a McCartney charity release (anti-drug). It's a bonus track on Pipes Of Peace.

Really good!

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vonbontee
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20 August 2012 - 5.48am

Into the Sky with Diamonds said

I just discovered "Simple As That" a McCartney charity release (anti-drug). It's a bonus track on Pipes Of Peace.

OK, impossible to read that without snickering: Paul McCartney, anti-drug zealot! (And the album title makes it even funnier if you think about it!)

Not totally on topic, but I was surprised to just recently learn that "Wonderful Christmas Time" never charted in the USA. Which is a surprise because I remember it being a big hit here in Canada. Usually it's only songs by Canadian performers that chart here but not south of the border.

Also, does "Girls' School" (b-side of "Mull Of Kintyre") show up anywhere?

I remember George saying 'Blimey, he's always talking about “Yesterday”, you'd think he was Beethoven or somebody' - Paul McCartney

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kedame
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20 August 2012 - 5.49am

That is a good one! I think it was released as an anti-heroin charity song or something. I love the lyric, "If you love your life, everybody will love you, too." That is so Paul!

"You can manicure a cat but can you caticure a man?"

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kedame
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20 August 2012 - 5.53am

vonbontee said

Into the Sky with Diamonds said

I just discovered "Simple As That" a McCartney charity release (anti-drug). It's a bonus track on Pipes Of Peace.

OK, impossible to read that without snickering: Paul McCartney, anti-drug zealot! (And the album title makes it even funnier if you think about it!)

Not totally on topic, but I was surprised to just recently learn that "Wonderful Christmas Time" never charted in the USA. Which is a surprise because I remember it being a big hit here in Canada. Usually it's only songs by Canadian performers that chart here but not south of the border.

Also, does "Girls' School" (b-side of "Mull Of Kintyre") show up anywhere?

We got flipped! It is ironic, isn't it...Though, I don't think Paul ever really got into heroin, and he saw what it did to John.

And Pipes Of Peace...lol. That is a funny coincidence.

I think the general consensus is that Wonderful Christmastime is a horrible song...but I like it. I liked it before I knew it was Paul because I like Christmas songs at Christmas. But it doesn't surprise me that it never charted.

Girl's School charted in the US, but I don't know if it is on any other album. I got it from a McCartney B-sides torrent.

 

Edit: We didn't get flipped. I just didn't read ITSWD's post clearly enough. Forgive my redundancy.

"You can manicure a cat but can you caticure a man?"

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vonbontee
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20 August 2012 - 6.59am

I expect that a lot of the "Wonderful Christmastime" hate comes from folks who can't stand Xmas music in general, can't stand hearing the same songs 1000 times each December - a sentiment I can totally sympathize with - for 30+ years. I've always thought it was really cool, the way it bounces and burbles along. Not quite as good as Stevie Wonder's similar synthesized funk (like "Higher Gound" or "Boogie On Reggae Woman"), but that's what it reminds me of, all the same. I guess it is a bit repetitive, as far as that goes.

I remember George saying 'Blimey, he's always talking about “Yesterday”, you'd think he was Beethoven or somebody' - Paul McCartney

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20 August 2012 - 11.27am

The lyrics to Simple As That are appalling and the tune is ghastly, cannot stand it. The backing response "simply as that" vocals sends shudders down my spine. Horrid.

 

Same Time Next Year has been lost, i think its only been offically released on the Put It There cd single, gorgeous song. I think it was in a movie but it may have been ditched, i dont know.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

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Ben Ramon
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20 August 2012 - 1.26pm

There are tons of little obscure Macca gems that I love and wish had been on albums. A Love For You, from the Ram sessions, is amazing and should have been on the record, contains one of his best vocal performances too. I'm also a big fan of Cage, which would have been very welcome as a replacement for the poorer songs on Back To The Egg. Then there's the beautiful sitar-laden Tragedy, and 1882, which started off as a nice little melancholic piano waltz but was turned into a rock song for Wings '72 tour, didn't really work.

I'm also fond of the unfinished reggae tune Unbelievable Experience, although apparently Paul brought that in for the Tug Of War sessions and George Martin told him it wasn't up to par and he had to write some higher quality material for the crucial record to test his relevance in the '80s. Always nice to think that there's at least one person in the music industry who'll tell him what's worth recording and what's not!

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Holsety
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7 September 2012 - 10.11pm

I really like "3 Legs" off of Ram for some reason. It apparently tends to be the most hated song on the record; I can see why considering its competition. 

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7 September 2012 - 10.25pm

Peace In The Neighbourhood from Off The Ground is a really good track, completely forgotten about that. Maybe could have been faded out a bit earlier but still a fine song. The Lovers That Never Were is one of my favourite Paul songs ever.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of "self" to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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Into the Sky with Diamonds
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7 September 2012 - 10.38pm

meanmistermustard said,"The Lovers That Never Were is one of my favourite Paul songs ever."

I think meanmistermustard and I disagree on just about every Beatle song, so I find it interesting that he and I should agree on this song. (It doesn't hurt that the lyrics are probably mostly Elvis Costello's)

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7 September 2012 - 10.47pm

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
meanmistermustard said,"The Lovers That Never Were is one of my favourite Paul songs ever."

I think meanmistermustard and I disagree on just about every Beatle song, so I find it interesting that he and I should agree on this song. (It doesn't hurt that the lyrics are probably mostly Elvis Costello's)

 

LOL. Surely not!!

 

Ah at least we are able to co-exist.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of "self" to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

Duke_of_Kirkcaldy
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8 September 2012 - 1.41am

I'm probably most curious to hear the Red Rose Speedway outtakes from when it was planned to be a double album... which is why I wish they'd pick up the pace with these reissues!  a-hard-days-night-paul-3

Ben Ramon
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8 September 2012 - 11.43am

The majority of stuff I've heard which was feted for the double-LP Speedway is pretty good, a lot of errs on the side of hard rock and prog rock ("Jazz Street", "Night Out") but there are of course some beautiful ballads too ("Tragedy", "Mama's Little Girl"). I think Speedway would have been better received in its original double incarnation- I like the medley but it did seem a bit of an easy cop out to round off the record.

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Von Bontee
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10 September 2012 - 7.48pm

Not to mention the fact that it's lousy! :)

Be interesting to see if RRS is indeed expanded to it's double LP length. (Hey, I'd give it the benefit of doubt and buy it!) Really though, I suspect that the best of RRS and WWL together would make a single fairly solid single LP. (Just IMO.)

(Curious how the man could release two of his weakest albums of the decade in between his two best...)

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
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10 September 2012 - 8.27pm

More than likely RRS would be the same pattern as McCartney II with original line-up and then the extra tracks from the rejected double lp on a third cd of the super deluxe edition.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of "self" to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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Von Bontee
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10 September 2012 - 8.59pm

Hm. Well, I'm not paying for more than a 2CD set.

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
-- Paul McCartney

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GeorgeTSimpson
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10 September 2012 - 9.01pm

I love simple as that. Wonderful Christmas Time is my favourite christmas song (next to happy xmas (war is over)) and I love christmas songs in general. A main reason why I love the christmas time so much. Still I think those two christmas songs are the greatest.

Yeah a anti-drug song by paul is a bit funny, even more funny is that jimmy mcculloch (the second lead guitarist of the wings, and imo the best guitarist of all time) wrote two songs for the wings, both anti-drug songs. He later died because of a heroin overdose. And geoff britton even quit the wings because of the massive drug-taking by jimmy

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meanmistermustard

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27 September 2012 - 4.27pm

Some fabulous tracks released around Flaming Pie but not on that album: I Love This House, Broomstick, Atlantic Ocean, Love Come Tumbling Down, Squid & Same Love.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

"Don't make your love suffer insecurities; Trade the baggage of "self" to set another one free" ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)

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9 February 2014 - 10.34pm

A little known gem that is a big favourite of mine is "On the wings of a nightingale".

Paul wrote it but I have the Everly Brothers singing it.

I'm not sure if Paul recorded it himself.  I think he may have written it for the Everlys.

I think Paul also produced the Everlys version, although I could be wrong about that.

The Everlys sing it marvellously - as they do everything - it is hard to imagine anyone topping their version.

Was sad to hear that Phil Everly passed away recently.  RIP.

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9 February 2014 - 10.44pm

This thread makes me realize how many songs I still haven't heard!

Not sure if "Soily" counts as obscure, but it's an amazing song that should have been given a proper rocking studio recording.  The bootleg studio versions I've heard have paled in comparison to the Wings Over America version, and especially the Rockshow version, which has a different vocal that I prefer to the album.  It's one of Paul's best rockers, in my opinion.

How could I ever have lost you when I loved you?

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