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Linda's singing on RAM
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mustard quoted Paul as having said:

If you listen to it now – the high harmony on The Beatles’ ‘Let It Be’ – that’s Linda doing it.

Where in the song is that?  Does anyone have the time-stamped specific or something close?

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I sincerely doubt it’s true. George is singing the high harmony, John the low one. You can see and hear George singing that bit in the Let It Be film. There aren’t any other harmonies, are there?

 

Maybe he meant another song. Linda sings on Hey Jude , right? Perhaps he’s got his songs mixed up.

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In Paul docu “Wingspan” he say’s Linda is singing the high notes on the record. apple01

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I sincerely doubt it’s true. George is singing the high harmony, John the low one. You can see and hear George singing that bit in the Let It Be film. There aren’t any other harmonies, are there?

 

Maybe he meant another song. Linda sings on Hey Jude , right? Perhaps he’s got his songs mixed up.

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Paulverts getting Linda and Francie mixed up!? a-hard-days-night-paul-4

Oh dear oh dear! a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

a-hard-days-night-john-6

 

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Oh well. I must’ve remembered wrong. It happens to the best of usa-hard-days-night-paul-11

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No! a-hard-days-night-john-4

That’s like saying Linda sang that line on The Continuing Story… a-hard-days-night-paul-11

 

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That was YOKO yoko-ono_01

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The question still remains whether she sang on Let it be or not..

Maybe Paul mistook George for Linda a-hard-days-night-paul-7a-hard-days-night-john-6

 

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Linda added harmonies in January 1970 which are on the single version (‘Past Masters ‘) and ‘Let It Be … Naked’.

During the January 4, 1970, session, Paul replaced track 4 with a bass performance of his own. Brass (scored by George Martin) was overdubbed on track 5, along with Paul’s descending electric piano riffs.The song was given a tape reduction into takes 28–30, with a simultaneous new overdub doubling the brass on track 5 and adding cellos at the end of track 2. Paul, George, and Linda (making her sole appearance on a Beatles recording) also triple-tracked some high harmonies (bouncing from track 7 to 4 and back to 7).
Finally, track 4 received an overdub of George’s lead guitar (non-Leslied, including a new solo), plus maracas (Paul) and extra drums (Ringo) for the last half of the song. The eight-track tape now contained:

track 1 —lead vocal and electric piano
track 2—old backing vocals and cellos
track 3—organ
track 4—new lead guitar, maracas, drums
track 5—double-tracked brass
track 6—bass and drums
track 7—new triple-tracked backing vocals and old lead guitar
(April 30, 1969)
track 8—piano

A pair of stereo mixes concluded the session, and Glyn took away the tape but didn’t slot the new mix into his LP lineup prepared the next day, apparently intending to keep the LP and single versions separate. Instead, a fresh stereo mix was done at Olympic on January 8 for the single. This mix (A) pans the backing vocals from
left to right at the start and features George’s April 1969 guitar performance from track 7, although a bit of the new guitar is used during the final verse, alongside the maracas and drums…

The remix (C) for Let It Be … Naked neither lets it be nor stands naked, using quite a bit of digital trickery. The majority of the song is take 27A from January 31, 1969, incorporating two January 4, 1970, overdubs: the new backing vocals and Paul’s bass overdub. In addition, portions of take 27B (used in the film) are spliced in,
specifically the third chorus and subsequent guitar solo (1:31–2:26) and the third verse and subsequent chorus (2:41–3:22). However, as Paul had sung “there will be no sorrow” on the third verse during take 27B, that line is replaced with take 27A’s “speaking words of wisdom.” Whew!

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George Martin said that neither Yoko Ono or Linda McCartney were substitutes for the partnership of Lennon/McCartney. John got stuck into poor old George but I believe George was right then and he was right now. The fact that both of them went on to write some great songs was in spite of their wives not because of them. For all Paul’s excuses, Linda couldn’t sing or play – to me her voice was either too shrill or girly, or she just yelled. Her on stage presence was wooden and awkward. 

I agree with the someone who said that Linda would not have been part of Paul’s music were it not for Yoko. The competitiveness even on that level. The Beatles’ huge success was due to their creativity, their personalities, their intelligence and their wit and humour. At the time, to like their wives/girlfriends was a bonus but it wasn’t part of the job description. After the break up, both John and Paul had such a sense of entitlement in practically demanding the whole world love their new women, and reacting with resentment and self pity if not every one did. It doesn’t work that way, even for the non famous.

George has found retrospective respect as an artist because he established himself from the beginning as exactly who he was – George Harrison . Ringo Starr did the same. Unlike the other two, they didn’t turn their personal lives into soap operas. Paul diminished himself with Wings (not necessarily with the songs) and the Paul and Linda McCartney joined at the hip thing diluted his name. It is easy to look back on the Wings/Linda era with rose tinted specs and this whole Linda was Paul’s rock business. Paul was tough, he would have picked himself up. It’s taken Paul a good couple of decades to re-establish his identity as Paul McCartney , and this is who we see now, along with a rise in his popularity, but he should have done this right from the start.

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Linda does OK here. 

 

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@Saltie, Linda was a heavy contributor on Ram for several reasons. The Lennon rivalry was a small factor, as Paul was clearly trying to compete with his former parter. However the primary reasons for Linda’s strong singing presence on McCartney and Ram were her support for Paul after the Beatles’ breakup, and the benefit of having her name associated with the album. 

Paul was somewhat of a depressed alcoholic after the breakup, and Linda’s involvement in resparking him left a strong mark on his music. They collaborated on writing and performing new songs without having three other Beatles there to be bothered by an outsider. 

The second reason was the fact that Paul and Linda had set up a new songwriting partnership Paul and Linda McCartney to obtain immediate access to the rights, and get financial benefit from having a separate partnership getting credit. This motivated Paul to frequently include Linda throughout the album making process. 

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Paul was depressed after the breakup but it had taken its toll on the others too. Paul always had people singing along to his songs if they happened to be around, nothing unusual there. Linda supported Paul just by being there for him; however, I do find it somewhat ironic that it was Linda’s family that helped Paul get into his mess in the first place. Their misguided foray into the business affairs of the Beatles acted as a red flag to a bull to the others, kick starting decades of legal battles. If Paul and Linda’s songwriting partnership was done for monetary gain then I’m even less impressed. Paul’s acquisitiveness regarding money started around this time, not something many people felt comfortable with. Despite the debacle over Allen Klein, John, George and Ringo were hardly left poverty stricken.

Linda’s talents lay in photography. I find it strange that so many people give far more credence to her very slight musical efforts than to her considerable abilities in her specialised field. I see no reason why her particular talents should be considered less important than those of her husband, however brilliant he may be.

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@sir walter raleigh, I realise Paul was depressed after the breakup but it had taken its toll on the others too. Paul always had people singing along to his songs if they happened to be around, nothing unusual there. Linda supported Paul just by being there for him; however, I do find it somewhat ironic that it was Linda’s family that helped Paul get into his mess in the first place. Their misguided foray into the business affairs of the Beatles acted as a red flag to a bull to the others, kick starting decades of legal battles. If Paul and Linda’s songwriting partnership was done for monetary gain then I’m even less impressed. Paul’s acquisitiveness regarding money started around this time, not something many people felt comfortable with. Despite the debacle over Allen Klein, John, George and Ringo were hardly left poverty stricken.

Linda’s talents lay in photography. I find it strange that so many people give far more credence to her very slight musical efforts than to her considerable abilities in her specialised field. I see no reason why her particular talents should be considered less important than those of her husband, however brilliant he may be.  

I don’t think it affected the others like it did Paul, because it affected them all differently.  All the rest of them already had their “outside” things and George had really kind of been ready to move on for ages, he may not have liked how it ended but I don’t think he was that upset that it did end.  Paul didn’t, Paul had put all his energy into the Beatles.  And Paul was also a convenient target, because he was, as they liked to say “keen” and he was a workaholic and he was particular about how he wanted things done on his songs, so he was an easy to scapegoat.  

Funny some people still try to make him the bad guy when the court found for Paul’s side of the case – mainly because Paul’s side of the case was found to be mainly truthful whereas the other side was found to have on occasion misrepresented things as well as Klein well…not being straight in his business dealings.  (or tried to…like the debacle where John convinced George and Ringo to shall we say not quite be truthful in the depositions about their “unanimous vote in big band decisions” thing—which had been decided when Ringo joined because Ringo was worried his voice wouldn’t hold as much weight in band decisions being the last to join –which George and Ringo did and then when it came time for John to be deposed he totally caved and admitted that that whole unanimous decision thing had been the case and the thing about “3 against 1 so it’s Klein” really was against the normal operating procedure of the Beatles prior to that).  

As for the Eastman’s, what misguided foray?  They waded in in what seems to have been good faith and were treated like garbage by John and Klein.  And Paul didn’t actually push them at least not initially – he had given John other suggestions for possible managers which they could agree upon, John rejected all those suggestions as well because John only wanted Krooked Klein because Klein was Team John and Yoko.  Say what you want about the Eastmans but they had a long reputation as decent businessmen in how they treated their clients and they were offering a very fair, straightforward, easy to understand deal and most likely would have done for all the Beatles what they did for Paul, made them a lot of money, kept them from getting ripped off, but otherwise stayed out of the way.  I can understand why they wouldn’t have wanted them, being Paul’s in-laws(or soon to be in-laws) but let’s not pretend they were anything like Allen Klein.  

As for money, yes just because they have a lot of money they should let a crook rob them?  You don’t have to be starving to recognize a crook for a crook and you know, NOT sign a deal with him.  I mean “Well he’s crooked but I like him, so I’ll totally let him cheat me” is not usually much of a “thing” you know.  That’s not greedy or acquisitive, that’s smart.  As for some of others, I think sometimes some of it was less “greed” and more insecurity on Paul’s part.  He wasn’t sure, it wasn’t his area of expertise, he was still learning and so he was just over sensitive to being cheated or people trying to bilk more money out of him because he was Paul McCartney .  As the years went by I think he got a little more easy going about it, not because he let go of more money, but because he just learned to read people and situations better with regards to monetary matters and knew better how to not get into situations that might be problems.  

Actually George DID have money problems.  After finally managing to get finally disentangled himself from Klein(who for some reason seemed to screw George over worse than the rest of them), in the 80’s he had some bad deals involving producing films and lost a lot of money.  One of the reasons the Anthologies finally got done was due to George’s financial situation, kind of gave him the push to say yes to doing them.  Not really sure how Ringo’s finances are, I’ve never actually heard anything, but aside from when he had some serious addiction issues WAY back when, he doesn’t seem to get involved in anything too complicated so I wouldn’t be surprised if his finances were relatively stable.  And John, the reason John did well after Klein is because Yoko basically took over running the financials, and she was good at it. 

Now as for Linda, Paul McCartney , with and without Wings, was something like the second most successful chart act of the 1970’s after Elton John I believe(I can’t remember if that was in the US, the UK or both but I know he was at least top 4 in the US) – he had a massively successful, critically successful tour with Wings Over the World.  So lots of people liked Paul McCartney and considering Linda was right there on some of his biggest hits, while I don’t think she musically contributed to their success(though apparently she did make the helpful suggestions for the reggae part of Live And Let Die ), his success wasn’t “in spite” of her, and I don’t really think it was so much because “John and Yoko”, that was part of it but I think it was mainly just that Paul really had a severe depressive episode during that breakup time period(for example he gave the example of how once he was laying in bed with his face in the pillow and he had the hardest time convincing himself to move his head so he could finally breath, that’s sign of the sort of “paralysis” that often occurs with severe depression, what he went through during this period is really no joke for himself or Linda, everything he and Linda described suggests bouts of severe depression).  And this was greatly at odds with anything he experienced before, he was a doer, a goer, always moving, lots of energy and ideas and this just stopped everything.  It was probably traumatic particularly once he started to come out of it, being afraid of slipping down that hole again.

So I think as he came out of it, Linda gave him a sense of security and a feeling of protection and that is the main reason. I think another part of it may also have been he was also very serious about his marriage and making it work – and he knew himself and his sex drive, which was apparently pretty prodigious and figured it would be better if he kept his family around him to keep him honest as they say. 🙂  And I’m pretty sure Linda figured that was the best option too.  And before getting on Paul’s case, let’s just remember that rock musicians are known for sleeping around, it’s not like “horrible Paul everyone else can be faithful why couldn’t he”.  It’s because everyone else(well you know what I mean I’m not claiming 100% cheaters, I’m sure there are a few honest ones among them) could NOT do it either, and they wanted to avoid that trap.  Maybe you think George’s solution of cheating frequently on his wives and his wives putting up with it was a better solution, but this is what worked for Paul and Linda.  

But IMO it wasn’t so much to convince people she was a great musician(and he didn’t try to do that for the most part, usually it was that she was good enough really) as being in the band gave her a reason be there, and in an active way, rather than a passive way.  They can’t act like they didn’t know what they were getting with your wife being part of the proceedings and decision making, if your wife was a member of the band before they were.  Really they both said as much, she was in the band because they loved each other and he wanted her there, not because she was the world’s greatest musician, but on the other hand of course he was going to support her efforts to be supportive of him by NOT talking trash about her abilities.  Would we really expect him to insult her or rather that he would say nice things about her when it came up in the press and how does that equal “trying to convince everyone she’s a great musician”? 

I don’t think anyone gives more credence to her “slight” musical efforts, but those are the ones where she’s treated rudely by those who take personal affront to her presence so people want to defend her.  Whereas her talents as a photographer are obvious, she’s rarely insulted and so she doesn’t need much defending in that area.  The squeaky wheel gets the oil as they say.

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I heard RAM for the first time a few days ago. I’m not the biggest fan of it aside from four tracks that I’ve grown to love, and I gotta say that Linda’s singing is something I really enjoy. It adds more interest to the song in my opinion, and isn’t obnoxious like Yoko’s singing.

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I’ve never seen Paul as the bad guy for breaking up the band. I don’t believe that Yoko and Linda split the band musically – it was generally accepted that it was the end of the road and that the guys wanted to go their separate ways but I think they did a lot of harm to their friendship by their interference. Instead of the Beatles giving each other space it turned into such bitter acrimony. I don’t doubt the Eastmans’ reputation at all but American entertainment law is quite different from British law. I admit to not knowing all the ins and outs of this period.

I don’t think it was greed but his insecurity over money was something where he was perhaps a little manipulated. I still think he became acquisitive, even inadvertantly. At the end the Beatles weren’t poor and had more than enough (and still earning royalties as were other rock stars) to provide for their families once they had outgrown the fast cars, big houses stage. I know their assets were temporarily frozen, but otherwise any financial failures they suffered occured long after the break up and could happen to anyone.

I don’t think an example such as George’s womanizing would have been an acceptable solution to personal arrangements. There was no reason why Linda and the children couldn’t be together with Paul on tour, and support him, but Linda being up on the stage was something altogether different. Paul wasn’t a baby and many know what severe depression is like. After the mid 70s I don’t think Linda really helped his music or his image except for Wings fans.

At the beginning the Beatles didn’t know how long they would last. Ten years maybe. In reality they had success beyond their wildest dreams, which of course they had worked very hard for and deserved every bit of it. It’s a pity that their managers let them down.

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I enjoy both Linda and Yoko. Yoko is more talented but Linda has a slightly more pleasing voice. 

I would enjoy Wings less if Linda weren’t a member.

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To me, Paul has the sort of voice that suits male harmonies better, or at least singing on his own. Shame that otherwise he is too easily accused of being saccarine. Just my opinion.

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Saltie said
To me, Paul has the sort of voice that suits male harmonies better, or at least singing on his own.  

Fair point; Paul’s voice has a certain high/softness to it that you want to add a lower edge to it, like John’s voice. However, I find the combination of Paul’s soft tenor with the only slightly higher edge of Linda’s voice interesting and enjoyable — Linda’s voice adds a certain shimmer to harmonies when used right.

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I very much like Linda’s voice on RAM.  Great album….heart

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