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"Dear Friend"
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.. as in the song from Wings "Wild Life " album…  like so many others, is it true if this one was written for John?  Ugh, what a beautiful song.  So many feels. 

 

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If it's truly written for John, that's some strong McLennon game…  a-hard-days-night-john-1

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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"Dear Friend was written about John, yes. I don't like grief and arguments, they always bug me. Life is too precious, although we often find ourselves guilty of doing it. So after John has slagged me off in public, I had to think of a response, and it was either to be [to] slag him off in public—some instinct stopped me, which I'm really glad about—or do something else. So I worked on my attitude and wrote Dear Friend, saying, in effect, let's lay the guns down, let's hang up our boxing gloves." — Paul McCartney

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I love both guys but How Do You Sleep? vs. Dear Friend tells you all you need to know about their approaches to their disagreements. At least they patched it up by '73/'74.

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DrBeatle said
I love both guys but How Do You Sleep? vs. Dear Friend tells you all you need to know about their approaches to their disagreements. At least they patched it up by '73/'74.

I never got the feeling they really patched it up. It felt like an uncomfortable truce.

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parlance said

DrBeatle said
I love both guys but How Do You Sleep? vs. Dear Friend tells you all you need to know about their approaches to their disagreements. At least they patched it up by '73/'74.

I never got the feeling they really patched it up. It felt like an uncomfortable truce.

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True, it was never like it had been pre-1970, although it was certainly close enough that they'd hang out with their wives and exchange cards and letters. Not to beat a dead horse but I attribute a LOT of that to Yoko. By all accounts, Paul's, Linda's, May's, Jagger's, Clapton's, anyone else who knew him, etc...John was SO DIFFERENT, in a good way, during the 2 years he was with May vs. the years he spent with Yoko.

 

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DrBeatle said

parlance said

DrBeatle said
I love both guys but How Do You Sleep? vs. Dear Friend tells you all you need to know about their approaches to their disagreements. At least they patched it up by '73/'74.

I never got the feeling they really patched it up. It felt like an uncomfortable truce.

parlance

 

True, it was never like it had been pre-1970, although it was certainly close enough that they'd hang out with their wives and exchange cards and letters. Not to beat a dead horse but I attribute a LOT of that to Yoko. By all accounts, Paul's, Linda's, May's, Jagger's, Clapton's, anyone else who knew him, etc...John was SO DIFFERENT, in a good way, during the 2 years he was with May vs. the years he spent with Yoko.

 

The thing I never got about that is why Yoko sent Paul to bring John back?

 

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More than that, why did Paul do it? He KNEW John was happier with May and his relationship with John was better when he was with May. It's almost an act of self-sabotage and after what Yoko had done to his and John's friendship, ANYONE ELSE in his position would've told her to fuck off and enjoy her life as John's second ex-wife.  Yet Paul did the nice thing and helped them get back together.

Still doesn't mean I agree with it!

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More than that, why did Paul do it? He KNEW John was happier with May and his relationship with John was better when he was with May. It's almost an act of self-sabotage and after what Yoko had done to his and John's friendship, ANYONE ELSE in his position would've told her to fuck off and enjoy her life as John's second ex-wife.  Yet Paul did the nice thing and helped them get back together.

Still doesn't mean I agree with it!

I get the impression Paul reunited them because was he hearing reports of John's drunken, destructive behavior, and there was a genuine concern that John would die if he kept it up. It seemed to be the general consensus that, for better or worse, Yoko would have more control over him than May.

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^ I have to agree with @parlance on that matter. For a while, I did believe that Yoko might had manipulated Paul into convincing John to get back to her, but now I believe that Paul did it because he thought it to be the right thing to do.

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And just another reason to admire Paul. It's too bad that John was so self-destructive then, though, because in terms of his emotional health and love life, May seemed to be infinitely better for him than Yoko. His friendships were actually allowed to breathe when he was with May during that period, too.

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I just don't see how a question about whether a song Paul wrote around 1970/71 was about John becomes another excuse to complain about Yoko's supposedly "malign" effect on John, and Paul's role in reuniting them several years after the song was written.

That broken record is so very tiresome. I hate how it is always dragged out and jammed into conversation after conversation. The Yoko complaints crammed in Here, There And Everywhere just bore me!

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Sorry, mja/Ron! It seems we got sidetracked when the discussion about the song turned to their feud and eventual making-up. Steering it back on course now! stay-on-topic

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12 March 2014
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I just don't see how a question about whether a song Paul wrote around 1970/71 was about John becomes another excuse to complain about Yoko's supposedly "malign" effect on John, and Paul's role in reuniting them several years after the song was written.

That broken record is so very tiresome. I hate how it is always dragged out and jammed into conversation after conversation. The Yoko complaints crammed in Here, There And Everywhere just bore me!

I think the connection flowed naturally from the bitterness of John and Paul's dispute. As you know, all threads evolve as the discussion moves on and eventually this one too will run out of steam or derail.………All Things Must Pass .

 

Yoko's emotional manipulation of John, and then when it suited her, the triggering willingly, or unwillingly of Paul's protective feelings and fondness for John; in order for him, (and irony) to play a part in her machinations, is in my opinion still relevant……….. Well as relevant as all the other 'broken records' and topics done to death here and elsewhere in the last 50 years……….. 

 

………..Topics that you and I are still absorbed in.

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It might flow naturally (personally i don't think it did here but hey ho) but its incredible tedious at times reading the same things over and over in multiple threads.

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Whose Yoko? a-hard-days-night-john-3

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Whose Yoko? a-hard-days-night-john-3

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Whose Yoko? a-hard-days-night-john-3

I don't think Yoko belongs to anyone.

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Whose Yoko? a-hard-days-night-john-3

I don't think Yoko belongs to anyone.

I Imagine Yoko belongs to Yoko who is someone a-hard-days-night-john-1

 

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"Dear Friend" is an interesting song. Musically, it's unique in Paul's catalogue. And I love the subtle changes in his singing: the first time through the verses, he sounds forlorn and regretful; when he repeats them, there's an edge to his voice -- some anger, and almost a taunting or sarcastic tone. The lyrics fit both moods perfectly and take on different meanings (and double meanings) in each.

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"Dear Friend" is an interesting song. Musically, it's unique in Paul's catalogue. And I love the subtle changes in his singing: the first time through the verses, he sounds forlorn and regretful; when he repeats them, there's an edge to his voice -- some anger, and almost a taunting or sarcastic tone. The lyrics fit both moods perfectly and take on different meanings (and double meanings) in each.

Yes, I interpret the song exactly like this every time I hear it. It is easily one of Paul's most honest, personal and emotional songs.   

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